Could the HIV virus been developed deliberately in a laboratory???

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Could the AIDS virus have been deliberately developed in a lab?

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  3. That sounds insane... but we humans have done even worse things to each other ?!

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was somewhat tempted to voluntarily drop this topic in the "Conspiracies" forum but over these past few weeks I saw some information on this that indicates that this could well actually be the place for this subject to be addressed and researched.


    AIDS And the Doctors of Death: An Inquiry into the Origin of the AIDS Epidemic

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    Dr. Alan Cantwell - AIDS and the Doctors of Death - Part 1
     
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    Somebody on the forum gave me a word that has gotten me off in a line of research that I hadn't expected to be so
    interesting and I believe productive..........

    Canada's then Prime Minister back in 1974 made an obvious error that just doesn't make any sense whatsoever until I found out how influential the idea of Robert Thomas Malthus had been on economics over these last two centuries!

    Basically....... there is a school of thought that we ordinary people are so self- destructive that
    charity to the very poor... is a terrible idea.. .that will lead to mass starvation over the long term????!!

    Malthusian Theory of Population Explained

    P. M. Pierre Trudeau and / or some of his advisors seem to have been influenced by neo-Malthusian theories!

    Post #2 shows how all this is relevant to the present USA economic situation:

    Did P. M. Pierre E. Trudeau save the world environment?


    Does deliberately slowing down the economy tend to save the environment?

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    It is my feeling that we are a very long way from being unable to feed the growing population. The amount of food that is currently wasted, and the amount of land that is standing un-farmed, coupled with emerging technologies capable of converting previously un-farmable to crops, contributes to my opinion even though I have made no effort to seriously research it.

    We are probably more at risk from our system of requiring a growing population to maintain gainful employment in order to be able to be able to live comfortably, in the face of automation reducing the need for workers.
     
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    The human race is obsessed with destroying itself. It would not be the least bit surprising if HIV were indeed artificially created with such an idea and goal in mind.
     
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    EXACTLY!!!!!!

    Theoretically...... we could fulfill Isaiah chapter 35 for the fun of it......
    we could deliberately turn deserts green and produce food on large parts of the Sahara Desert
    if feeding hungry people were turned into a priority!!!

    I think that the way to get governments turned away from a Carbon Tax that I feel is a colossal waste of money, talent, time and energy .... (and of course on really cool viruses that can kill millions of us).......over to mega scale desalination of ocean water may be
    to mobilize the populations of cities that are vulnerable to the cracking and sliding of large amounts of ice off the West
    Antarctic Ice Sheet or the land based Greenland Ice Pack.

    I think that we need to get the elite within government turned away from plans to divert our attention over to plans to
    actually try to make our lives better...... rather than to get rid of us!

    I was kind of forced to arrive at these conclusions due to the geography here in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick, Canada, (that incidentally is very similar to Anchorage, Alaska.

    If average ocean levels rose by eight to ten cms (3 or 4 inches) could high tide...
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...illion-dollar-problem.525406/#post-1068713597
     
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    I hate to admit it.... but you are correct!!!!

    One of the most astonishingly well informed members on this forum made a statement a few years back that indicated that the
    European and world refugee crisis may well have been created quite deliberately....... so why not the AIDS virus????

    Could ISIS have been stopped at the border of Iraq if.....
     
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    That is a logical conclusion and if you research this topic for a while and do some meditation on all this the reasoning may become more clear.......

    "Could the HIV virus been developed deliberately in a laboratory???"

    On this planet the one hundred richest families have more control over elected governments than they would like to admit and.... they seem to have hired economists, lawyers and other experts who seem to have been influenced by the theories of Robert Thomas Malthus????
    Everything.....

    basically.... P. M. Justin Trudeau at this time is refusing to admit that his dad made a colossal error back in 1974..... and my theory is that at least a somewhat positive spin must be put on the whole thing in order to make this extremely offensive idea more palatable to all of us...... because frankly..... I find it to be offensive myself......

    P. M. Pierre E. Trudeau may perhaps have meant well by his terrible decision back then and one of his reasons may well have been to protect the environment through deliberately dampening the economy of Canada.... but we are now in a different set of circumstances and we really need to know what is likely making our political elite tick.... .and make the type of decisions that they do..... because it looks as if Ottawa's political leaders are far too in line with the idea that we ordinary Canadians are a danger to ourselves..... and to the whole world.... due to our tendency to over consume resources and the environment?!

    "Neo-Malthusianism" is a concern that overpopulation may increase resource depletion or environmental degradation to a degree that is not sustainable with the potential of ecological collapse or other hazards." (Wikipedia article on "Malthusianism")

    "Did P. M. Pierre E. Trudeau save the world environment?"

    In a nutshell.... those communist thugs in Guelph have connections to influential people at the very top of the close political advisors to P. M. Justin Trudeau......... and to the people who can influence his decisions on a day to day basis and on the policies that he supports...... such as what sure looks like the initiation of Culture War....

    (This message was posted to "Yellow Vests Canada" ) :
     
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    Sunday, July 12, 2015
    HOW PIERRE TRUDEAU TURNED US INTO DEBT SLAVES


     
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    My brother, who worked as an inhalation therapist, told me years ago that it was the WHO that created aids.
     
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    I Highly doubt it. HIV came from one of two (or 3) places: 1) Sex with monkeys or 2) Handling infected bush meat from Chimpanzee's. Or both. 3) Possibly another from of blood to blood transfer like a man killing a monkey but getting injured in the process as blood makes direct contact with diseased animal.

    HIV is a mutated version of a chimpanzee virus, known as simian immunodeficiency virus, which probably made the jump (from chimp to human) through contact with infected blood while handling bush meat. The virus made the jump on multiple occasions. One event led to HIV-1 subgroup O which affects tens of thousands in Cameroon. Yet only one cross-species jump, HIV-1 subgroup M, went on to infect millions of people across every country in the world.

    That would be my guess. Nature has a funny way of trying to rid itself of life through disease and viruses, HIV is just one of millions.

    It has also been around since the 1920's, just like Ebola and other diseases. It is believed to have originated in the Congo where explosive population growth made handling of bush meat much more common.

    Just my 2 cents on the topic.
     
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    I made it part way through the second video interview on this topic already today and my impression so far is that your brother....... is very likely correct!



    Dr. Alan Cantwell - AIDS and the Doctors of Death - Part 2

    Here is a topic that on the surface is not directly related to this question..... but once the larger picture is considered..... it does give us a hint?!

    How do a whole bunch of really, really, really smart people.... manage to accomplish essentially NOTHING with a method to cure cancer........ when they are told how to do it back before 1931?????????????

    I am merely a janitor at a school.... and even I know who Dr. Kark Jurak was?????
     
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    Anything is possible but I think biomedicine was a bit crude at the time for that.
     
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    You could be correct........
    your opinion is logical..... but there is at least some evidence that indicates that back in the '60's and '70's
    we already had some astonishing technology but........... it was kept hidden from the general public partly
    due to the fact that letting the average American know that the USA could build what looked like UFO's
    would have tended to make marketing of the internal combustion engine....... and oil....... more and more and
    more challenging!

    If as much as twenty percent of the claims made by the obviously brilliant and to my thinking
    clearly sincere Dr. Steven Greer are close to being essentially true.... then theoretically the USA is
    perfectly set up to experience an off the scale economic boom which may be one of the reasons why
    a group of high level NSA operatives may have decided to form QAnon........ perhaps they want to
    see some of that technology openly given to the American people?!


    My point is that if astonishing technology for aviation may perhaps have been hidden from the
    general public then who knows how advanced we may have been when it comes to biotechnology
    even back at that time?!


    Could this UFO have been Made in America?

    Could the January 2011 Temple Mount UFO event have used USA technology/

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    3. I guess I cannot rule out that possibility????
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