Could there be two Jerusalem Third Temples?

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Could there be TWO Arks of the Covenant?

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is not worded in a politically correct manner at all........
    but this writing that I found back in 2010 sure does ring a bell with me and does sure seem to fit
    with the likely implications of Isaiah chapters forty two to forty six.


    Eporu Ronald Alfred:
     
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    In my opinion, in order to save the world economy a part of Wall Street needs to be moved to Jerusalem.

    Basically it is the part of central banking policy that will put the idea of JUBILEE in front of all the nations of the earth.... .but especially America!

    I am hoping that Latter day Saints will assist in this in a huge way. They seem to be the most well prepared large Christian church when it comes to supporting the Jewish Sanhedrin in their desire to build a Jerusalem Temple and / or an Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight temple complex.
     
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    Oy vey! Wall Street is the seat of the throne of Satan; let it remain where it is now.

    LDS is a completely dead tree, a waterless cloud, twice dead, plucked up by the roots.

    Dennis, you're probably just kidding when you make such assumptions.
     
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    No.... .here is a statement that I made on a video just yesterday evening:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...tion-and-dollar.570833/page-2#post-1071814998




    A Latter day Saint pilot was somehow told by G-d to virtually adopt near death experiencer Dr. Kevin Zadai and give him over two hundred thousand dollars worth of pilot training. There are Latter day Saints who hear the Holy Spirit very much like many Pentecostals, Messianic Jews, Charismatic Catholics and other gifted Christians do!
     
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    Cozy lake of fire. I went to visit a forum with Messianic Jews and they were perplexed, looking at Ezekiel's Temple, and then they drove me away because I told them something new that was not written in their doctrines. We are more likely to build the Temple with ordinary Israelis than with religious dogmatists.
     
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    That is true!!!

    Back in 2010 I was led to a fascinating article on Cyrus by a man from Uganda who had a near death experience during a bout of malaria. His article will inspire some people especially under these strange circumstances:

     
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    Surely there are some people out there on June 27, 2020 who can make the possible connection between the fulfillment of Ezekiel chapter forty seven with positively shifting the USA, Israel and world economy away from what looks like an impending Bear Market, another 1929.

    Surely some of them would know that ART in forms that would tend to be valuable to certain groups of influential people could play a huge role in that shift?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...f-elijah-needed.499830/page-6#post-1071818312
     
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    Your comment has me thinking........
    I've read that more than ninety percent of the supply of money in the world is created as debt.... on which is owed compound interest over time.

    That system.... although obviously not perfect.... has prevented another full fledged 1929, another Bear Market.... so far!

    Could there be a way to finance....... a genuine Jubilee year..... perhaps several of them...... and could doing this as a SURGE IN DEBT.... set up the nation of Israel to take
    centre stage in a plan along the lines of:

    Can Israel pull the entire world economy out of a possible Bear Market, another 1929?
     
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    Whoever occupies the Oval Office......
    or even APPEARS to occupy the Oval Office.......
    is immediately thrust into the position of the number one most famous person on earth.......
    or...... one of the most INFAMOUS to a significant percentage of the eight billion of us.

    All that FAME... is NOT an easy burden ... (or metaphorical cross)... .to carry!

    I am of the belief that the Creator of the Universe - Multiverse has Their attention fixed on the little nation of Israel.....
    and......... that means that the population of Israel is in a position to grab a significant percentage of the
    BURDEN OF FAME that is on the President of the USA.

    Over this past decade I've been hit with two seemingly conflicting plans for peace in the Middle East.....
    one is from a near death experiencer in Uganda who had a brush with death during a bout of malaria......
    my guess at this time is that what he was show comes FIRST........ and what was shown to a
    near death experiencer from the United States...... probably comes along afterward.......
    but I am no near death experiencer so this is merely me making an attempt to put all of this
    together in the only logical progression that I can even begin to visualize.

    So first..... the Jewish people build at least one if not TWO temples because apparently there are
    TWO Arks of the Covenant?!


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...t-the-full-sixty-days.585193/#post-1072463753
    Should President Trump wait the full sixty days?




    I especially like the explanation for the Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight temple complex that is explained and
    illustrated at this website:

    https://galgal.dreamwidth.org/tag/third+temple



    Altar drawings:

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    The second plan for peace in the Holy Land that I read several times in this past decade was given to another near death experiencer from the United States. At this time the best guess that I can hazard is that this vision for the future goes into effect AFTER a Christian Political Cyrus assists the Jewish people to build at least one............. but I suspect TWO temples in Israel.......
    one on the Temple Mount... I suspect near the Gihon Spring well away from either The Dome of the Rock or the Al Aqsa Mosque.....
    and the other one several kilo -meters outside Jerusalem in a way that corresponds with the theories on Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight that is decide on by Israeli religious officials. (I presume that this will be agreed upon by both Jewish as well as Islamic scholars because all of us can see how Ezekiel chapter forty seven is win - win - win - win - win - win for all people who live in Israel and in the Palestinian territories as well as in all nations that neighbour Israel.

    God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land, Hebrew and Arabic.
     
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    There are no two arks of the covenant. Probably, in someone's imagination there is Jesus Christ of the western hemisphere and Jesus Christ of the eastern hemisphere. This disease, called Protestantism of the Brain, occurs during mass evangelism when zealous preachers perform spiritual abortions on premature spiritual babies.

    In fact, the Ark of the Covenant is the Temple, which is written about in Ezekiel. Only this Temple will be built. This Temple is the "ark of the covenant."
     
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    National Geographic is a publication that is noted for covering topics like this in an honest manner.

    I find it intriguing that most Orthodox Jews are calling for a Jerusalem Third Temple on or near the Temple Mount but..... as your website so well illustrates.... the Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight temple complex is centered outside Jerusalem by some kilometers. In other words....... there could be some major reasons as to why YHWH may have arranged to have a replica of the Ark of the Covenant made during the time of the King of Ethiopia still being in Jerusalem???

    If some of the major statements in this video are true..... surely this has huge meaning in how events work out????

     
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    You are so easily ready to believe all kinds of stories ... Everything has to be testable. The prophet Jeremiah wrote (3:16) that there would be no more Ark of the Covenant. The Apostle John was shown (Revelation 11:19) that the Temple became the Ark of the Covenant of God with Israel.

    I have not watched television since 1991. I watch YouTube only in exceptional cases. There is nothing worthy of attention, sheer junk. In my opinion, you will not find a serious conversation with serious people on this forum. For whom are we portraying the conversation here? Interstellar vacuum.
     
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    I am of the belief that some serious people will be coming to this forum and I have reason to believe that those people will begin to notice this place in the next one to four months but then rapidly expand after that.


    Two President, dealt with by Spring and CANCER DEFEATED within two years.

    http://forsuchatimeasthis-aseekerof...5/prophecy-lord-gave-brother-kim-clement.html

    What I believe will happen over these next six months will astonish all the world. Then the next three and a half years after that will be even more amazing!

    Isaiah chapter forty five is being fulfilled in 2021 and onward!

    https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/isa/45/1/s_724001



    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...t-the-full-sixty-days.585193/#post-1072463753
     
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    What Mark Taylor told us would happen beginning in 2011..... is indeed coming to pass... so the rest of what he wrote I believe must happen as well.

    www.sordrescue.com/


    https://sordrescue.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/04-28-11_commander_in_chief.pdf

    06, 20, 2015
    https://sordrescue.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/06-20-15_american_pharaoh_article.pdf

    10, 07, 2015
    https://sordrescue.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/10-7-15_america_america.pdf
     
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    There were no First and Second Temples that had anything to do with the pre-exilic Hebrew religion; Solomon's Temple was just a monument to his ego, and the 2nd Temple was just a scam to benefit a few Babylonian Jews who had influence with Cyrus at the expense of other Jews who weren't exiled; the Ark was kept in a tent in the Judaism of Moses; the current Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox Judaism is just a cult based around a fake 'oral Torah' in the 2nd Century A.D. fabricated by remnants of the Pharisees who survived the failed Bar Kochkba Revolt trying to keep the post-exile scam going. They tried to rebuild the Temple later on, but it blew up; some say it was caused by an ignited gas pocket they hit while building it, but in any event they never tried again, and instead settled for keeping the Muslim mosque swept and well tended.

    The temples have no significance in the Judaism of Moses, i.e. real Judaism.
     
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    I don't want to ruin your optimism, Dennis. Here is the schedule of the train with which we can reach the destination of our journey. But we need to be attentive to the Spirit in order to keep up with the train at an intermediate stop.

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    I have to admit that I personally prefer our putting our efforts into the fulfillment of Ezekiel chapter forty seven through the sincere effort to build an Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight temple complex over a reconstructed Temple of Solomon on the Temple Mount..... (I assume near the Gihon Spring) .... but....... success at building an Ezekiel chapter forty temple complex does not mean that there might not also be a Temple Mount temple as well??????

    https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/ot/ezek/47?lang=eng

    Aryeh B..... in your opinion based on what you have been shown so far do you think that I am overly optimistic to be reminded of the prophecy of The Warriors of the Rainbow by what was shown to author Rick Joyner in a dream?



    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...inbow-by-eyes-of-fire.422403/#post-1072468297

    I personally see sincere efforts..... combined with inspired and Holy Spirit directed efforts toward the construction of at least one Jewish temple as corresponding to BOTH the raising up of the Warriors of the Rainbow as well as to the second and first army of the visionary dream given to Rick Joyner! All of this depends on Living Water flowing from both a literal as well as from a metaphorical Ezekiel Temple complex!
     
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    Dennis, is it possible that the elect will gather in two places? In some temple near the LDS, or in a temple that is a copy of the Second Temple - there is no provision for the arrival of saints. There is only one way to bring about the Second Coming of Jesus Christ: for this we must build the Temple according to the description of Ezekiel. Any other temples are irrelevant. Who is Rick Joyner? Whose idol is this? Why should I listen to some person whom I do not understand and who does nothing for the project of the Temple according to the prophecy of Ezekiel to be carried out?

    You are counting on Trump - this is also nothing, an empty space. Like George W. Bush, like Biden, like Netanyahu. They are all empty places, none of them will ever build a Temple in which saints from all nations will appear. Because for the construction of the Temple, the Church is needed, a community is needed that wants this Temple, which understands the structure of this Temple, which is ready to sacrifice for this not only money, but, if necessary, their lives.

    I ask you: where are these people? First, there must be a community, in Israel and in the rest of the world, which needs this Temple. And then we will succeed.

    As long as you look at Trump, at Rick Joyner, at other leaders, everything will be useless. This is trampling in one place. I can glue this whole forum with pictures of the Temple, diagrams of the Temple, create several sites - and this is no use at all. Because the construction of the Temple requires not a crowd of spectators, but specific specialists. We need an architect, we need a design engineer, we need a treasurer, we need a lot of people who will do this not because they were hired for Linkedin, but because they are the Church that serves God with this construction of the Temple. Such people do not go to these forums. If the Lord God does not bring them to us, then we will not succeed.
     
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    The Third Temple which was built in three days was Christ's Resurrection. There is no other Dennis. The one that will be built in Jerusalem will be the seat of the Antichrist.

    The prophecies about the Antichrist go back almost 2 thousand years. They say he will be brilliant, extremely charismatic and a great humanitarian. Everyone will be able to see him (TV) and he will deceive the world - including most Christians. Pockets of Christians here and there will remain steadfast, and after he's voted in as the world leader, he will start the persecutions.

    The Antichrist will not allow anyone to buy or sell unless they have the number of the beast. Whoever accepts the number though, will lose their soul permanently - which means something will be embedded into people's minds to control their will.

    Here are some of the things going on today that I find frightening:

    1 - The Chinese leader Xi said that everyone should have a barcode.
    2 - Elon Musk talking about embedding things into people's minds.
    3 - Bill Gates buying up all the farmland in the US - why?

    Right now in Davos, they are discussing the Great Reset which is the precursor to the one world government envisioned by Soros and other 'ideologues'. But man makes his plans, but God has his own so it's not going to happen yet. A world war will intervene and after the war, there will be a few decades of peace. I fear though for the next generation.
     
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    Dennis when you talk about Wall Street, banks etc., you're talking about this world's values. Christ's Kingdom (realm) is not of this world, this is why the Jews rejected Him. They wanted a Messiah that would be a world leader to free them from the Romans.

    As for the Mormons, they are not a Christian faith. They are so far off, that they're not even considered a Christian heresy.
     
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    I like Mormons.....
    my all time record for getting excommunicated from Christian churches is two in about one month back in 1991. The Latter day Saints have not kicked me out yet and they tend even to leave the discussions that I begin on their forums going and going and going even if I have shown extreme ignorance and even quoted a former LDS while assuming that this writer was still full fledged LDS in good standing?!


    This will give you an idea of what I mean by this:

    Reincarnation of Cain and Abel as Moses and Jethro?

     
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    Dennis, the purpose of prophecy is for people to repent for their sins so they won't come true. Glorifying one's nation isn't repentance. Actually its self exaltation which makes it anti Christian since humility is a perquisite.

    Our government has committed a great many sins these past decades, and the worse we're doing, even more so than our indifference towards human lives in other countries, is that we're imposing our pagan values on the rest of the world. We are mystery Babylon.

    I like Muslims, Hindus, Jews, Buddhists, Atheists, Jehovah's Witness' - it doesn't mean that they are Christians. You can't call the Mormons Christians when they're not.

    So you were kicked out of so many churches? That's funny! So what did you do?


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    That's a good one!
     
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    I personally do call Latter day Saints "Christians" because I believe that many, many of them have already been given the Holy Spirit..... When you really get down to it this is tied in to my own personal beliefs of how the Ancient of Days the Father and the Ancient of Days the Holy Spirit and Messiah Yeshua - Jesus make judgments on each of us.......


    Luke 11:11 "If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent?"


    Romans 8:9 "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his."


    No church...no matter how accurate their doctrines are ... can give the Holy Spirit to either you or me or a Latter day Saint.. .or anybody else who asks for the Holy Spirit.......
     
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