Could this UFO have been Made in America?

peeps are used to seeing and hearing unknown things in the sky...

vast majority were from the first jet engined aircraft. even today nearby an airport after one reaches altitude and they throttle down the engines, they make that eerie ufo sound...

 

"According to a statement, "MUFON's chief Photo and Video Analyst, Mr. Marc Dantonio, stated ‘I firmly believe that the UFO was not real, for many reasons...this video and the other Jerusalem UFO Videos are in my opinion hoaxes."
https://www.seeker.com/jerusalem-ufo-video-case-closed-1765198925.html

 

always nothing but opinion, never any actual proof either way...

seems that is the way society rolls these days...

edit: more likely it's our future selves traveling back through time...

 

Of course but... the point is that the footage was taken in several languages from different points of view and it would cost serious bucks to fake something like that. Organizing people around a cause like that leaves a paper trail....... and...... again....... look at the context of what happened three days before the UFO sighting!!!!!!


https://www.templeinstitute.org/archive/26-01-11.htm

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/ufo-sightings-north-america-jumped-6000-2019/story?id=68145474

A check of the National Reporting Center shows about 30x more sightings now than in the early 60s, but with only 50% more people.
http://www.nuforc.org/webreports/ndxevent.html

 

What would constitute proof you would accept?

 

my statement stands on it's own merits.

 

No it doesn't if you can't even define what you mean.

 

"Proof of extraordinary things requires extraordinary evidence, " Carl Sagan

Having one land on the National Mall scattering all the picnickers and staying there with a Giant Robot on guard, like in The Day the World Stood Still, (and with Michael Rennie, not Keanu Reeves. )

 

So what if they are here but they don't? Do we just pretend it doesn't exist?

And that wouldn't be proof. It could be faked.

As for Sagan, nonsense. Scientists are talking out of both sides of their mouths when they say that. The quality of evidence is not dependent on subjective interpretations. There is no such a thing [a formal definition] as "extraordinary evidence" in science or anywhere else. It is just a cheesy way to claim arbitrary interpretations of evidence. If I don't like it, it isn't extraordinary!

 

Not with Michael Rennie coming out it couldn't. OK, I might accept John Malkovich but KEANU? Jeebus, were the producers just fooled by his name?

There isn't a single scientist alive who wouldn't give just about anything to be the first to submit proof of ET life, but just for that reason, they have to have REALLY ironclad proof or they won't do it. Remember Cold Fusion?

 

That was a different situation altogether. Cold fusion was allegedly something that was repeatable in a lab. UFO sightings or encounters are not repeatable on demand. It has to be studied differently. And any potential evidence will be very different in nature.

The highly respected journal, The Journal of the British Interplanetary Society [JBIS] published this paper. The four authors, a mix of scientists and an engineer, argue that there is sufficient evidence for science to take the subject seriously.
https://www.researchgate.net/public..._Implications_for_Extraterrestrial_Visitation

Proof? No, not by any standard that science would accept. But sufficient motivation to be taken seriously? Beyond a doubt!

One real problem is defining what would be proof. It isn't a quip. Short of ET landing and meeting everyone at Starbucks for coffee, it is a difficult question to answer, scientifically.

 

The introduction

Inflation-Theory Implications for Extraerrestrial Visitation
1. Introduction
The ever recurring question of why Earth has seem-
ingly not been visited by extraterrestrials (ETs) has
received considerable discussion under the topic of
‘Fermi’s paradox’. The problem originated as a quip
by Enrico Fermi to colleagues in Los Alamos over
lunch one day in 1950. Whether one assumes the
existence of only one other civilisation or of many
alien civilisations in our Milky Way galaxy, and whether
one assumes colonisation involving interstellar travel
at near-light speed or far below, diffusion modeling
predicts colonisation or at least visitation of all hab-
itable planets in the galaxy on timescales of tens of
millions of years, far less than the approximate 13 x
109 year age of the galaxy itself. Thus the paradox:
Where are they [1]?
Theoretical possibilities unknown to Fermi make
the paradox even stronger today. One can now ra-
tionally conjecture about prospects afforded by ad-
jacent M-brane universes [2]. Indeed, if the
multidimensions underlying superstring and M-brane
theory are correct, there could be inhabited universes
separated from our own by minute, orthogonal dis-
tances. Also, anthropic reasoning has recently been
applied to inflation theory, arriving once again at the
conclusion that we should find ourselves within an
enormously larger galactic civilisation [3]. While the
‘We are alone’ solution to Fermi’s paradox was once
a seemingly valid one, this answer is now incompat-
ible with the infinite universe and random self-sam-
pling assumption consistent with inflation theory. We
thus find ourselves in the curious position that cur-
rent cosmological theory predicts that we should be
experiencing extraterrestrial visitation. At the same
time, current physics and astrophysics suggest that
such visitation may not be as impossible as had been
thought.
2. Recent Scientific Advances
In recent astronomical discoveries, over 100
exoplanets have been catalogued, with detection
Inflation-Theory Implications for
Extraterrestrial Visitation
JBIS, Vol. 58, pp. 43-50, 2005
J. DEARDORFF1, B. HAISCH2, B. MACCABEE3 AND H.E. PUTHOFF4

It has recently been argued that anthropic reasoning applied to inflation theory reinforces the prediction that
we should find ourselves part of a large, galaxy-sized civilisation, thus strengthening Fermi’s paradox concern-
ing “Where are they?” Furthermore, superstring and M-brane theory allow for the possibility of parallel
universes, some of which in principle could be habitable. In addition, discussion of such exotic transport
concepts as “traversable wormholes” now appears in the rigorous physics literature. As a result, the “We are
alone” solution to Fermi’s paradox, based on the constraints of earlier 20th century viewpoints, appears today
to be inconsistent with new developments in our best current physics and astrophysics theories. Therefore we
reexamine and reevaluate the present assumption that extraterrestrials or their probes are not in the vicinity of
Earth, and argue instead that some evidence of their presence might be found in certain high-quality UFO
reports. This study follows up on previous arguments that (1) interstellar travel for advanced civilizations is not
a priori ruled out by physical principles and therefore may be practicable, and (2) such advanced civilisations
may value the search for knowledge from uncontaminated species more than direct, interspecies communica-
tion, thereby accounting for apparent covertness regarding their presence.
Keywords: Fermi paradox, extraterrestrial hypothesis, extraterrestrial visitation, UFO phenomenon, Condon
Report, SET

 

I find the Iran 1976 Air Force event to be highly compelling. The Iranian AF was an extension of the US military back then, which is why intelligence officers were on the scene. I have seen both pilots and the General interviewed many years later. It is a case that simply cannot be dismissed. The main text of the report begins on page 4 of 6.
http://nicap.org/reports/760919routing_slip_ufo_iran.pdf

 

The Coyne Helicopter event is very interesting



as is the Travis Walton abduction story, where five witness passed a State [Police] run lie detector test, in regards to the alleged UFO abduction, while under suspicion of murder.

 

This is a very good, but very dry documentary and first-hand account by the Air Material Command's public information officer. It covers the very early days of the modern UFO era.

 

But given that they should be advanced over us about as far as we are over amoebas how could we ever know they were there if they didn't want us to? We obviously couldn't, which leads to the conclusions that any so-called proof MUST be falsified. ( If it's there, it's not, so there)

Sorry, just kidding, I like the above.

And NASA does have actual sighting protocols for UFOs. Progress is being made.

https://www.sciencechannel.com/tv-s...se-photos-of-black-knight-under-space-station

 

Very, very interesting indeed!!!! Certain people are targeted to be shown UFO activity that is from a certain source.

This could be part of a larger plan that will ultimately fit with what Covering Cherub Lucifer, the former Halel is really up to. A good explanation of part of what he is doing is given after the twenty two minute and thirty second mark here:




The Mystery Of The Power Words @ The River Of Waupun Session Sixteen

 

Stephen Greer M.D. states in the video given in the opening post that Carl Sagan was hired by the CIA to put out the story that they wanted put out to the media. Stephen Greer feels that the CIA do now want it known that UFO's are real for many reasons..... one of which is economic. They think that the internal combustion engine fuelled by oil could survive that disclosure.

 

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Could or Couldn't?

And in either case why doesn't the CIA just put it out themselves?

 

Also I've read and watched Sagan quite extensively, I trust him more than most public figures.

 

Sorry..... my typing error! I should have typed "couldn't."

I suspect that they are planning on putting it out themselves........
and I admit that I could be wrong but from what I have heard I smell the efforts of a former
poster on politicalforum to set up matters to work out in a way that will leave all of us in AWE within five to ten years?!

I have reason to believe that we are in the beginning of the most off the scale POSITIVE awakening that humanity has ever been given!

 

His ability to speak and write was one of the reasons why the CIA went to him. It is in that four hour long video.... that I found fascinating!

I can't remember where in the video it speaks about Carl Sagan but I am sure that that was who was referred to....... frankly..... he wanted to come out with truth but they would not let him.

 

Mebbe, I dunno. This is one area where a vast ages-old conspiracy is actually likely

My favorite is the Black Satellite, largely because my favorite author, Philp K. Dick, wrote several books that could have been about it, or at least made references

 

We can only hope. Lord knows humanity needs some positive developments