Covid-19 follies

To date, NOTHING about helping your immune system to prevent or treat Covid-19 infection. Essentially, we just hide & wear masks. And if we get it, we disappear into a hospital to be given experimental treatments other than just fluids and inhalators. And a vaccine DOES NOT HELP YOU IF YOU ARE ALREADY INFECTED. Fortunately, there's this:


Can Natural Botanical Herbs and Supplements Impact Coronavirus?

A Scientific Look at Botanical Plants and Supplements Against Coronavirus
Richard Gale and Gary Null PhD
Progressive Radio Network, March 10, 2020


https://prn.fm/can-natural-botanica...N2YxEq-5DRHMDn5GYAY0wvERem97RlAXEvdDSzqcssEp0

 

I think many modern day people are brainwashed to think that allopathic medicine is "all there is" and everything else is just plain wrong. Many people don't realize that much of modern medicine is based on homeopathic treatments of what used to be called "medicine men".

Thanks for sharing this article.

 

article is 4 months old. Hopefully more has been learned. Quinine was also once mentioned as being helpful.

 

Fascinating....source please?

 

google is your friend.

 

I like a little Quinine with my vodka. But I like my scotch on the rocks.

 

I didn't ask for smoke or generalization, I asked for a source. Your declaration, your burden of proof. If you can't or won't supply such, then there's no further point in discussion.

 

exactly

to ask others to do your work for you. If you are interested, have at it

if not, go away

 

https://dadamo.com/dangerous/2020/04/07/covid-19-chloroquine-zinc-and-quercetin/

TLDR: zinc reduces virus RNA replication in cells, quinine tricks the cell into taking in more zinc. one without the other doesn't do alot. Both together should help.

Also, too much of either can be harmful, though you'll have to regularly drink a fairly rediculous amount of tonic water to get a harmful does of quinine because the the FDA approved levels of it in tonic water are a lot lower than they were when it was actually intended as an antimalarial a century or more ago.

Also not all tonic water has quinine in it. But most do.

 

I didn't bother because the poster wasn't actually interested in reading about quinine

 

Wow, that was a lame dodge of yours....here's how it goes: put on your socks and shoes, go to the local high school or college that has a debate team and learn who has the "burden of proof" when first making a declarative statement. The chronology of the posts here shows that was YOU, friend. So when someone asks for proof of what you say and you can't provide such, that makes repeating your statement tantamount to a lie. Other people don't do your homework....I sure as hell won't. You can't flip this one, friend. Put up or blow smoke.

 

~ Oil of garlic is a supplement worth looking into. Some say oregano oil is even stronger.

 

THANK YOU!

From what I've read, the effectiveness of this stuff is at the initial onset of the disease. Once you've gone full blown, the quinine is of little effect.

Zinc is always good. And believe it or not, oil of Oregano is a very effective anti-bacterial/viral (taken in moderate doses).

Thank goodness we can still exchange such information and references...because Big Pharma and the MSM sure as hell won't.

 

That would make sense. It would be tough to drink enough tonic water to get the same dose of quinine as a hydroxychloroquine scrip, and the hydroxy has been refined to reduce the side effects (stomach irritation, diarreah and blood pressure iirc). Lighter doses would likely only be effective on those with less advanced infection.

FTR, there seemed to be a lot less 'debunk' articles to wade wade through, claiming quinine has no effect, than there were a month or so ago. They're getting pretty good at burying this type of info underneath mountains of propaganda. Which isn't surprising, given that all that various forms of 'quine are available as cheap generics and no one can corner the market.

 

~ I say give every healthy adult prophylaxis Hydroxychloroquine ( zinc ? ) for 3 months. See what effect that has. It seems to be what keeps infection down in countries that use it regularly for malaria .

 

Baloney. You have no proof other than your opinion that I don't read what's presented to me. Obviously you have some axe to grind. Whatever.

 

you have your opinion. that's fine

 

Ahh, quite the reverse my duplicitous friend. The chronology of the post clearly shows a basic question met with a generalized, burden avoiding bluffs. Then you make a false accusation against me. Paladin and I don't agree on a lot of stuff and have had dust ups in the past, but he gave the information that I wasn't aware of without any problem. Clearly, YOU have an issue with me that I am not aware of...nor do I care. That you quote that libertarian BS artist Ayn Rand speaks volumes as to your mindset. So carry on bluffing and blustering and accusing to your heart's content. Unless you want to discuss the OP, I'd say we're done here.

 

The initial reports were that if used AT THE OUTSET of the disease, it's VERY effective. However, once Covid-19 is full blown, hydroxychloroquine is essentially ineffective.