COVID-19 Proves It: We Need Medicare-for-All

Let's start with a LW website perspective:

Crossing the Border for Care
Frustrated by long waits, some Canadians are heading to the U.S. for medical treatment.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-co...dians-increasingly-come-to-us-for-health-care

Canadians could expect to wait 9.8 weeks for medically necessary treatment after seeing a specialist in 2014, the researchers found, three weeks more than the time physicians considered to be clinically "reasonable."

Tsk! Tsk!



Why Canadians Are Increasingly Seeking Medical Treatment Abroad
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/canadian-medical-tourism_n_5949b405e4b0db570d3778ff

63,000 Canadians left the country for medical treatment last year: Fraser Institute
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/63-00...reatment-last-year-fraser-institute-1.3486635


More Canadians leaving country for health care: Report
https://torontosun.com/news/nationa...e-the-country-for-health-care-says-new-report
The flight of the sick continues to rise in Canada.

A policy brief — titled Flight of the Sick, by the Calgary-based think tank secondstreet.org — says 217,500 Canadians left the country for health care in 2017, according to Statistics Canada.


Well, that was easy.

 

And 1.4 million Americans go abroad for medical care. Explain that. Does it mean our system sucks ? Many more then Canadians here.
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/...s-Will-Go-Abroad-Medical-Care-Year-Should-You

Oh, make that 1.4 million and one.
Rand Paul went to Canada for treatment. Why ?

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/why-is-rand-paul-going-to-canada-for-surgery

THAT WAS EASY ...

 

COVID-19 proves it. We need to keep Progressives and Globalists and politicians in general as far away from our healthcare as humanly possible.

To wit:
On January 15 the WHO declared that COVID-19 could not pass from human to human in order to protect the Chinese.
On January 20 the first infection in the US was detected in a person who had just visited China
By the end of January, the COVID task force was convened and travel restrictions for China imposed
As people returned from Chinese New Year celebrations from January 25 - February 8, a sleeping monster was brought into the country.
On February 24, Pelosi invited the country to hug Chinatown residents who returned from Wuhan, spreading the disease.
On February 25, as the disease got a hold on Europe, Democrat John Bel Edwards decided it would be a great time to hold Mardi Gras and infect his state, neighboring states, and likely NYC with diseases brought by international travelers.

So far this timeline goes, Globalists and Progressives are 100% responsible for the spread of the disease through the US.

Shortages of supplies date back to funding government run health insurance using excise tax on medical devices like ventilators and masks. Add to this the fact that the FDA can hold up the design and distribution of anything called a medical device or, say a drug like hydroxichlorophine, despite the fact that it is used for other diseases and coincidentally, people who have those diseases don't get coronavirus.

The worst thing that could possibly happen would be to hand our healthcare system to the same people who thought it was a great idea to tax ventilators and obstruct known cures.

 

You seem to think healthcare is free now. It's not.

 

Anything the government does is less efficient, and more expensive, than the private sector.

 

I don't know how old you are but if your over 65 go price health insurance.

 

Medicare isn’t free. Americans have paid trillions to keep it going, even though Medicare pays medical providers just 20 cents on the dollar. Providers despise Medicare.

 

This is demonstrably false. Every single first world nation with single payer healthcare systems get better care than we do, for a fraction of the cost we pay.

 

We have the best medical care in the world. The best physicians, the best equipment, etc. And it’s not cheap.

 

This is objectively false.

So is this. Single payer systems provide better care at a fraction of what we pay.

https://www.who.int/healthinfo/paper30.pdf

 

Why do you feel that every other nation on earth is able to provide this to their citizens but Americans are too incompetent to do so? Why are we unable to figure out what they have already done? So much for America being #1 I guess...

 

What does "every single first world nation" pay in terms of its annual national defense budget?

 

What color is the sky on mars in April?

 

so that’s 63, 000 thousand vs 1.4 million, plus Rand Paul, going in the other direction. That doesn’t count

Medicare is more popular with seniors then any private insurance. Because anyone can opt out, simply by not paying their premium, you’d think seniors by the droves would do it and buy private insurance. They don’t. Your arguments seem pretty bogus to me.

 

It’s not the best, when it’s unaffordable. Not only that, but becoming a doctor or nurse is so expensive, 25% are foreign nationals. They are immigrants. Overall 1-6 healthcare workers are immigrants. So, I guess you’re saying immigrants have helped us have a good HC system. Not....it’s still too expensive.

 

Lots of talk there.

 

Anything government touches it destroys. Why is our high tech industry so successful? Because government stayed out.

 

Of course it's popular with seniors. They pay little and the taxpayers get stuck with the bill. Whereas taxpayers don't have to support me and my private health insurance.

 

Uh, no. That is a peer reviewed paper I gave you, showing single payer systems get better care for a fraction of what we pay.

 

One area I'll agree with you: prescription drugs. All other nations have limits on what the drug companies can charge. We have no limits, so Americans subsidize the cost of drugs for the rest of the world.

The simple solution would be to limit prices here. But if we do that, the companies will suffer and we can say good-bye to future research and development. Innovation will come to a halt.

Since other countries won't rescind their price controls, there is no easy answer.

 

Simple. Democrats run our healthcare system. Who else would tax ventilators and surgical masks to make sure they were manufactured overseas? BTW, I just saw where a Detroit healthcare worker died because Pelosi ripped the mask off her face and gave it to an abortionist in her hostage taking on the coronavirus relief act.

 

The same source that says Cuba has a better medical system than the U.S.?

In Cuba, hospitals routinely run out of aspirin and bandages.

 

COVID-19 Proves It: We Need Medicare-for-All

Does “We” include Malayan tigers?

Tiger at NYC's Bronx Zoo tests positive for coronavirus
JENNIFER PELTZ
Associated PressApril 5, 2020, 1:51 pm

 

It's simple for drugs developed here. Allow them to charge any price they want as long as it is no more than they charge in foreign countries. The cost of production is very small. The entire cost is in development, testing, licensing, and clinical trials. We shouldn't be eating the latter costs. It would force Pharma companies to make sure other countries pay up or kill their people to save a few bucks.

 

“Nuh uh” isn’t an argument. I gave you a peer reviewed paper showing you are wrong. You stand refuted unless you can present a peer reviewed paper showing mine is wrong.