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COVID-19 Research, Drug trials and Pathophysiology

Discussion in 'Coronavirus (COVID-19) News' started by Bowerbird, Apr 13, 2020.

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  1. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Please see my #519.
     
    Jack Hays, Feb 23, 2021
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    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Jack Hays, Feb 26, 2021
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    The WHO needs to start over in investigating the origins of the coronavirus

    MORE THAN a year after the coronavirus pandemic began, its origins are mysterious. The truth may take years to discover, but now is a good time to relaunch the search for it. A joint inquiry by the World Health Organization and China has run into trouble, as a group of 26 scientists pointed out this week in an open letter to the WHO. Both the possibility of a zoonotic spillover from animal hosts and that of a laboratory accident need independent, expert investigation — and it is time for a new team to seriously tackle the laboratory hypothesis.

    Why is the issue of the     virus origins so important? Because the source and method by which the virus made the leap to people are critical to prepare for any future pandemic. Too much political heat has already been spent on this issue, some generated by China, where the first major outbreak began, and some by Donald Trump in his attempt to distract attention from his catastrophic pandemic response as president. The blame-throwing must not impede finding the truth. . . .
     
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    Jack Hays, Mar 7, 2021
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    as to covid origins, remember the Spanish Flu reached its peak 10 years after the Tunguska meteor hit our planet... same about the Italian Flu has been registered 7 years after Chelyabinsk meteor arrival, but for some reason they now call it a 'covid'.
     
    sharik, Mar 8, 2021
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    Jack Hays, Mar 8, 2021
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    Last edited: Mar 8, 2021
    Monash, Mar 8, 2021
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    Jack Hays, Mar 11, 2021
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    Jack Hays, Mar 29, 2021
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    Jack Hays, Mar 30, 2021
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    There's some good news, The majority of Americans 65 and over have been vaccinated from COVID 19 and it looks like We're going in the right direction.
     
    Richard Franks, Mar 30, 2021
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    I feel we are being over cautious in the UK now with everyone over 55 vaccinated and everything still locked down. What are your hospitalisations and death rates in your open for business nation now you have the most at risk groups vaccinated?
     
    Tigger2, Mar 31, 2021
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    It. Will take a little while yet as we also have to stop the rotten thing mutating
     
    Bowerbird, Mar 31, 2021
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    Bowerbird, Mar 31, 2021
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    Bowerbird, Mar 31, 2021
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    This is a weird argument for me. If we are to remain locked down in case it mutates then we will be locked down just so long as its prevalent anywhere in the world. More, we fully expect it to mutate and the vaccine to be modified regularly.
    The current argument seems to be that is we unlock now then the virus will suddenly start killing younger people or mutate in a way that it didn't do before we had a vaccine.
    To date I have followed the rules religiously, but based on logic. I no longer see that logic.
     
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    True, but the potential if it works in human trials is immense.
     
    Monash, Mar 31, 2021
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    True but after the Hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin disasters I will adopt “wait and see”
     
    Bowerbird, Mar 31, 2021
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    They were only disasters because the conspiracy fan base took hold of and ran with information from their usual 'go to' sources. In contrast the report in question comes from a reputable, fact based scientific/medical journal that makes no claims beyond the initial, potentially positive results.

    In other words we wait and see.
     
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    We wait and see

    Great if it does work but there is a long hard road between the lab and common use
     
    Bowerbird, Mar 31, 2021
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    Sure, but there remains an accountability question.
     
    Jack Hays, Mar 31, 2021
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    Jack Hays, Apr 2, 2021
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    Montegriffo, Apr 2, 2021
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    Jack Hays, Apr 2, 2021
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    Isn't that what the WHO just did?
     
    Montegriffo, Apr 2, 2021
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    Jack Hays, Apr 2, 2021
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