COVID-19 surge in the US: The summer of hope ends in gloom

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  1. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    COVID-19 surge in the US: The summer of hope ends in gloom

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    Even before the delta variant became dominant, experts say there were indications that larger gatherings and relaxed social distancing measures were fueling new cases.

    “We had been cooped up for over a year and everyone wanted to get out,” said Dr. David Dowdy, an epidemiologist at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. “In the face of that kind of strong change in behavior, even getting almost two-thirds of our adult population vaccinated wasn’t enough.”

    The COVID-19 vaccines remain highly effective against hospitalization and death, but many tens of millions of eligible Americans remain unvaccinated. Nearly 40% of Americans 12 and older are not fully protected.

    ... COVID-19 surge in the US: The summer of hope ends in gloom (apnews.com)

    This is what anti-vaccination disinformation and the significant portion of misinformed Americans, largely divided along party lines, have done. All who embrace and spread vaccine misinformation are contributing to the deaths of their fellow Americans, and because there are so many who choose to be so profoundly stupid about it, the country has to continue with mask mandates and social distancing restrictions to try and protect these people from themselves and protect other people who may be vulnerable to infection in spite of vaccination from those people.
     
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    Wait a minute, I thought Americans elected Biden to deal with Covid. How's that working out?
     
  3. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Silly people think government can stop a virus. The current spike has already peaked. It will drop as fast as it rose. That’s how these things work.
     
  4. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well, as you can see, a great many Americans are so poisoned in their thinking that they are actively working to sabotage the current administration's efforts to deal with Covid and are getting themselves and others killed in the process.
     
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    That's just not true. These people are not actively working to sabotage the current administration's efforts to deal with Covid. They either have legitimate fears of the vaccines or believe in their rights. People should not be forced or otherwise intimidated or bullied into getting vaccines that have killed people and been responsible for thousands and thousands of serious adverse medical events. And, the mask thing is a total misrepresentation by the left. In all mask mandates, cases have risen, not fallen and that is mostly because too many people are out and science has proven that the kinds of masks most people wear are only about 10% effective. We don't have such a thing as N95 mask mandates, just mask mandates, where any old mask will do, even though it doesn't. Biden promised us he would deal with Covid but Covid is dealing with him, just as it did with Trump and the rest of the world.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Americans elected Biden to deal with the cult.
    It was pretty effective
     
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    In 2016 Americans elected Trump to deal with the cult. It was pretty effective. I bet you're proud of Biden having the same approval rating as Trump.
     
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    Biden plans COVID vaccine mandate for 80 million private sector employees

    https://www.axios.com/covid-pandemi...lert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=alerts_all

    GOOD.

    The current surge and the number of kids that have been infected........could have been prevented...........or at least minimized if folks would have followed the recommended protocols. but they won't be told what to do..(an attitude they should have outgrown during their teens.)............. even if it affects the society they live in. There is no personal right issue when it comes to PUBLIC health and contagious conditions. Totally ignorant and irresponsible. So a lot of this is now self induced.
    A vaccine was created in record time........ and yet like selfish kids ........many just refuse to take it.........and yet some would try drinking disinfectants because their ignorant cult leader suggested it (mind you.....HE didn't do it . or any of his crazy cures .......he got vaccinated.)
    When violence erupts over mask wearing........ there is a big PEOPLE problem that is not being recognized.
     
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    If you had the vaccine what would you care?

    The only reason you would care is if the vaccine didn't work.


    Why do you need me to take a vaccine that doesn't work?
     
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    Haven’t read a lot of anti vaxx posts have you?
     
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    Haven't heard all of the lefty lies and misinformation have you, such as the spread of the virus is all the fault of the unvaccinated when, in reality, it is proven that the vaccinated also spread the virus? Did you ever watch the video I asked you to watch? Probably not because you are way too busy sucking up the lies and misinformation the left are giving you.
     
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    Nothing we have done has brought the virus under control. Obviously we need a plan B. Anti Vaxxers aren't misinformed. They are fearful like my wife or convinced that the virus is the lesser of two evils for them personally. I think you are misinformed by government because of information made obsolete by the new strains of the virus.

    It isn't working. Stop wanting more of it. Let's find a way to live with it as conveniently as we can.
     
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    Let's take a look at some case numbers, shall we??

    August 1st, 2020: 0% "fully vaccinated" ---
    62,594 cases (7-day average)
    August 31st, 2020: 0% "fully vaccinated" ---
    41,600 cases (7-day average)

    August 1st, 2021: ~50% "fully vaccinated" (per CDC) ---
    79,775 cases (7-day average)
    August 31st, 2021: ~53% "fully vaccinated" (per CDC) ---
    160,383 cases (7-day average)

    Why are case numbers so much HIGHER now (under Biden) than they were a year ago (under Trump)??

    Why are case numbers INCREASING as more and more people are getting vaccinated??

    Weren't these vaccines supposed to make case numbers go DOWN instead of skyrocket upward??
     
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    Because the delta strain of the virus is both more contagious than the original strain and it is also more vaccine resistant.

    Because the current strains of the virus are more contagious than the original strain and are also more vaccine resistant

    Of course, but this virus could well be weaponized making all the old rules obsolete.
     
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    It is simple. Biden has worked hard to get the vaccines into as many arms as possible.

    The ICUs are filled with the overwhelmingly non-vaccinated victims of the anti-vax propaganda.
     
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    Meh. You don’t know that.
     
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    Biden cannot control the pandemic all by himself. A pandemic necessitates that everyone participate in the measures designed for dealing with the virus. If people will not cooperate , they've only themselves to blame. The medical personnel have goneoverboatd intrying to expalinand & teach about the virus.......and how e can best handle it given the tools we have. If folks want to follow the gossip / ie "misinformation".......channels on social media........then they are the ones with the problem. But by doing that.......the become a problem for everyone else......when it comes to a contegion.
    After all this time.....if forks are still unsure , just consult your medical advisor. Most of all....it seems important to examine one's own personal biases and prejudices......and "beliefs as many times the ycaninerferewith logical action.........particularly when it comes to public health.

    This is both a personal health issue as well as a public health one.
     
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    Ah, so Biden’s plan means that he didn’t really have a plan other than what we are already doing. Silly people think government can stop a virus.
     
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    Pretty well. Unvaccinated Trump supporters and Republicans are still dying at a 2% rate. They won’t be able to transmit the disease or vote.

    Win-win for the USA.
     
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    The PHD's are the one's holding out, and african americans.
     
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    Nope.... It takes the publichealthofic ials to ifnorm and educate the public and it is the public that can curtail the virus (by collectively following recommended protocals_).
    Well stated.
     
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    LA County To Mandate Segregation Of Unvaccinated Or Negative Test At Outdoor Events, Bars, And Clubs
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    "And who are the least vaccinated?"

    "the new segregation order will affect blacks the most - at just 51% vaccinated."

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    The Critical Race Theory Folks assure us that any time Blacks do not have the same outcomes as Whites that it's due to systemic racism.

    So by their "logic" the Vaccine Nazi's are systemic racists.

    Every time the Left uses the term Latinx, they lose Latino support

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    Latinos don't need Rich White Left Wing Saviors to rename them.

    "Let's hop on over to Brooklyn, New York to see how their similar mandate is doing:"


    Damn! Today's America where the unvaccinated are the new Jews to the Authoritarian National Socialist Left. Your vaccine cards are your "papers" that demonstrate your obedience.

    You want your civil rights back? Vote Republican.
     
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    Funny how lefties now think blacks, Hispanics, and PHDs are all Trump supporters.
     
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