COVID Death Toll Under Biden Set to Surpass Trump, In Less Time

No it doesn't! You have to subtract the 8,832,292 cases that were already active before Biden took over from the current 9,421,688 active cases to calculate the 2% who are on their death beds since Biden took over.

 

Nonsense. Those two numbers have not one thing to do with each other. If we are going to give Trump the 6 week death toll following him leaving office (which is nowhere near what you claim it to be btw), you also need to give Biden the 9.4 Million cases and their death toll in the next 6 weeks.

In reality, this is all irrelevant. What is relevant is that those numbers are very close, and that is shocking when you consider that we have had vaccines since the day Biden took office. It is clear that you want to discuss everything other than the actual ramifications of this reality. I wonder why?

 

And Trump handled the apples better than Biden handled the oranges.

 

Not really apples and oranges.

Even that communist DeBlasio admitted that Cuomo killed thousands by packing the infected into convalescent homes.

 

Your math won't help you.

Even if you stare at it through your telescope.

 

Only 600,000 of those 9.4 million active cases happened under Biden.
Logic is beyond you.

 

Wow, you are confused. Active cases do not remain on the books for 11 months. Every single one of those 9.4 million active cases happened under Biden. How you are trying to claim only 600,000 is beyond nonsensical. We are not talking about cumulative cases which is what would necessitate subtracting out Trumps cumulative cases. Cumulative numbers are far different than what is being discussed ( there are currently 49 million cumulative cases). Perhaps you should stick to blogs that would at least not make such simpleton mistakes? This striking out on your own to derive your numbers bit isnt working out very well.

To make matters worse, this entire tangent is nothing but a strawman argument. You have purposefully avoided the actual subject.

 

Pure HOGWASH!

 

How so? Are you trying to claim that Trumps 8 million plus active cases when he left office are still in the active case column? What you are claiming is absurd.

 

The subject is how many deaths can honestly be attributed to each president, and attributing people who were already on their death beds when Tramp was in office to Biden's death toll is truly dishonest.

 

Have you finally realized that you are confusing active cases with cumulative (OOPS)? I suspect that to be the case because you ignored that part of my post and your past history in this conversation would indicate the likelihood of such a tactic.

 

Yeah, it's funny how that happens.

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/10/politics/covid-disappearing-trump-comment-tracker/

 

No, I'm claiming it is pure HOGWASH to claim every one of the current 9.4 million currently active cases happened since Biden took office.

 

What you actually said was that all but 600,000 were due to Trump. Is that still your claim, or have you realized the error in your ways and are trying to avoid acknowledging as much?

 

Is this supposed to erase the hard data being discussed?

What is it with so many leftists constantly trying to change the subject in this thread?

 

Guess it never occured to you that it took COVID quite awhile to get up a full head of steam, or that most of the death's since President Biden took office have been tRump supporters that refuse to mask, social distance or get the vaccine.

 

No, I am arguing that active cases remain in the books as long as they are active. There is no time limit for how long they remain on the books as you imply. Active cases are counted as long as they are still active, they are only not counted when they are released or die.

 

These deaths are being overreported to make Biden look bad.

That was the argument the right used for Trump.

 

It's almost as if you have 1/3 of the country continuing to the spread the virus, intentionally, just to make Biden look bad.

 

If Cuomo knew how easily this thing spread, like Trump knew.
Hold him accountable.

 

OK, I will acknowledge that the 600,000 might be wrong if you will acknowledge your 9.4 million is pure HOGWASH!

 

Biden is fully capable of making Biden look bad without anyone else's help.

 

You said all but 600,000.

Do you now realize how silly that is? Yes or no?

 

How is 9.4 million active cases hogwash? Are you trying to dsay that there is a significant numner of active cases that were active in January 2021?

I am not going to pretend to know exactly how that number is calculated, but in no way is that a large number that still is being counted as active from prior to January 2021. You know that as well. You are just trying to hide behind the vagueries of there perhaps being a scant few that have been active for that long. Long haulers are typically not considered active. Might 9.4 million only be 9.3 million? Sure that possible, but once again, that is a distinction without relevance. You misstating that only 600,000 were Bidens however is a distinction with extreme relevance.

You jumped in on my conversation. I was discussing how them being roughly equal is shocking considering that Biden had a vaccine and improved protocols when he entered office. I am actually a logical person. I do not blame Biden. A virus has a life of its own. My argument is with those that blame Trump for his results. This is a worldwide pandemic that has very little to do with a President. It is primariuly the left that has been running around blaming Trump as opposed to much of the right blaming Biden. The first I have seen of the Right blaming Biden is with the news that deaths are basically equal. I am truly surprised that they are given the vaccine being there when he took office, but I doubt Biden has much to do with that.

 

This all sounds just like that ProlineFL poster who had his own special statistics for FL that he argued week after week to justify his hatred for Desantis.
And now we have barely any cases down here compared to a bunch of blue states and he disappears from making new threads.