Covid revealed our weaknesses

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    "If the United States had incorporated frequent rapid antigen testing earlier in the pandemic, and had enabled a faster regulatory approval process for new tests, it may have been able to avert some of the nearly 80 million confirmed COVID-19 cases.

    Now, the issue is no longer availability or supply, it’s whether the United States can maintain testing capacity with ongoing funding levels—money that is now on the chopping block in Congress.

    The vaccination campaign has been riddled with challenges: vaccine hesitancy, misinformation and disinformation, the politicization of public health, and widespread anti-science attitudes. With 65 percent of the population fully vaccinated, and only 29 percent who are up to date with boosters, the United States ranks in 65th and 70th place in the world.

    Keeping up with the virus as it evolves has been a challenge for the United States. Mike Ryan, executive director of the Health Emergencies Programme at the World Health Organization, said it best: “Speed trumps perfection. Perfection is the enemy of good when it comes to emergency responses.”

    Now is the time to prepare for future surges and to stay ahead of this virus. The Biden administration’s COVID-19 preparedness plan does just that by focusing on four main goals: protect against and treat COVID-19, prepare for variants, prevent economic and educational shutdowns, and continue to vaccinate the world. As promising as this national plan is, funding for it was stripped from the U.S. government’s spending package, and a standalone, supplemental bill is not certain to pass. The consequences of congressional inaction for the American public could be severe."

    https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/united-states/2022-03-24/global-lessons-covid-19
     
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    COVID kills what about 1/100 people it infects? And the US has seen close to a million people dead from the pandemic, to say nothing of the people who died from secondary causes and long COVID. And the US absolutely failed and it looks like we’re going to learn nothing from the pandemic. What’s going to happen when a super bug strikes in the coming years? It’s going to happen. And we won’t at all be prepared.
     
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    We will never be prepared as long as disinformation and misinformation prevails. For example. The infection fatality rate of Covid is between 0.3% and 0.4%, not 1%. How can we prepare correctly for another pandemic when almost everything people believe about the current one is false?

    I agree we won’t be prepared. Mainly because the general population will be kept uninformed of the facts on virology, epidemiology and general immune system health necessary to thwart pandemics. Until it can be acknowledged this pandemic was mainly a product of public health malfeasance nothing will change.
     
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    I mean, I’ve seen about .5-1 so… we’re talking tiny numbers but I think your points are made.
     
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    no mater how prepared we are, if half the country won't participate or even get a vaccine when available, we lose
     
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    Obama even warned Trump of this potential before he took office and left him a plan to handle it

    Trump could have followed that plan and then if it went bad, offloaded some blame on Obama, but Trump choose not to, Trump choose to play it down instead

     
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    So then we have to find ways to convince them to take basic sanitary precautions. We know we can do it. We just have to find the right way.
     
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    Why don't we just recognize this virus is here to stay and decide how to live with it on our own terms rather than dictate to our neighbors? It isn't going anywhere but it isn't going to kill everybody either.
     
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    How did the US fail? You mean Joe Biden failed?

    You can knock down those million deaths to about 250K. That is closer to the real number of actual Covid deaths. In the meantime China(Libos fav country) and India probably saw millions die from Covid that were never tested for it.

    The median age of those who died from Covid is 76. 75% of those who supposedly died from Covid were 65 or older. 2/3 of those who died from Covid would probably not have lived another year had they never got Covid.

    https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-by-Sex-and-Age/9bhg-hcku/data

    Despite the obsession by the fascists to make kids wear masks and get vaccinated not even 1000 deaths among children in this country. 9.3% of 1% of deaths were kids.

    So when you cut through the lies there was no need for mandates, lock downs and vaccines for people under age 35. All lies.
     
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    Followed what plan? You mean Obama knew about this Chinese bioweapon before it came here? So Obama did more as president other than just colluding with Russia and being a traitor to NATO?
     
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    This is libo logic for you folks.

    Trump has the army corp of engineers turn the Javits center into a hospital for Covid positive patients so they could be treated without infecting others . He also turned 2 naval ships into hospitals. So what does the libo hero perv Andrew Cuomo do? He puts Covid positive people in nursing homes where the most vulnerable people were.

    Then libos blamed all Covid deaths on Trump. o_O
     
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    Obama dealt with viruses too and learned from them, passed on that knowledge to Trump, Trump ignored it... sad!
     
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    He was a vicious racist for identifying those viruses by their place of origin. Africa.



    Why has he not been arrested yet?
     
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    I miss having a good President like that, one that actually sounds and acts Presidential
     
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    Colluding with Russia and identifying killer viruses by their geographic origins? We were told that is racist.

    You are a big anti Putinist. He's evil! Obama colluded with him was a traitor to NATO. He should be arrested for that right?
     
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    yep, I do not support what Putin is doing
     
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    So Obama should be arrested for treason then?

    You agree that calling a virus :West Nile" or "Ebola" is racist based on the standards set for Trump?
     
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    Indeed, we were ill prepared for a pandemic. And I don't believe it needed to be that way, considering a plan was already in place. But hubris got in the way of executing that plan and then several other mistakes occurred with the domino effect.

    On the brighter side, I believe we are in a much better place to manage such a situation again. People will get in the way, of course, no matter who is in power. And the public will also be reticent to comply again, having lived through 2 years of covid. But I have faith that it won't take long before people recognize the seriousness of any future pandemic and will do what needs to be done. (There will always be those who don't, but I won't count them in the majority).
     
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    I did not say you did. I said you did not and do not care that Obama was a traitor to the USA and NATO. He's privileged.
     
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    Obama was no such thing
     
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    He colluded with Russia when negotiating NATO missiles. He also implied that he wanted Russia to help him in the 2012 election.

    Then Hunter Biden got a $3.5M bribe from Eleana Baturina in 2014 just before Putin made his move on Crimea.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html
     
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    fake news, and Hunter was never President
     
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    That video is fake news? Hardly. Obama should be arrested and stand trial for treason.

    All I'm doing is holding you libos to your own standards. You said Trump was in collusion with Putin.

    And you can lie all you want but you woke libs would have freaked and called treason had any of Trump's kids gotten millions from some oligarch.
     
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    Trump had the Trump tower meeting to get dirt on Hillary, that is true
     

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