Covid revealed our weaknesses

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    Was there a point?
     
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    "Eric Feigl-Ding, an epidemiologist at the Harvard Chan School of Public Health, explains.

    [Clip: Eric Feigl-Ding: 00:23]
    "Korea might have a lower mortality because it caught the virus faster than the U.S. Korea has much better health care than the U.S. I'm really worried about the United States because I think the U.S. will have a worse outbreak than other countries because we do not have universal health care. That will show up in the mortality and severity as well."

    South Korea has conducted more diagnostic tests faster than any other country -- around 10,000 per day.

    Nearly half of the cases are those under 40 years old.

    In addition, most of the infections are in women.

    Global figures show the virus is mostly deadly among the elderly and men in particular.

    Another key reason, experts point out, is the early detection that enables early treatment."

    http://tbs.seoul.kr/eFm/newsView.do?typ_800=N&idx_800=2388022&seq_800=

    So there are a bunch of reasons, but one of the real killers is not having national health care...

    Speaking of which, and let's take the Brits as an example, they are all over preventative care to keep their national health care costs down. American insurance doesn't care about preventative care because most people eventually change jobs, and get a different insurance company.

    Ahh, I should tell you fighting obesity is part of preventative care...
     
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    Prior to making a Covid comparison, there are over 100 factors to take into consideration, both negative and positive. For said reason, I concluded long ago that Covid statistics among nations and states are rationally incomparable.
     
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    Not sure what your point is. The Obama administration did nothing to stop infections.
     
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    Biden and the UK banned flights to African nations over Omnicron on the same day as the UK. Nov 26th 2021. Biden the racist trying to make Africa pay for that variant. What a pos. 8 Counties banned and only one had a documented case.

    https://news.yahoo.com/biden-bans-travel-8-african-194036982.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
     
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    Yep zero which is why they completely shut down the biggest city in the country. If only the dems could have voted for Xi.
     
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    I didn’t make a point, I questioned the accuracy of a statement you made......

    “Thank goodness H1N1 wasn’t Lethal”

    ??????
     
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    Are you trying to tell me that a disease that studies have clearly shown to be fatal to those with 2 or more comorbid isn't going to be more threatening regardless of treatment to a population that 50 percent has 1 comorbid by default?
     
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    Technically, that is your point.

    Needs explanation, but don't think that I am asking for an explanation. It's an observation about how a good argument needs to be constructed, with context.

    And yes, I don't always add context, this topic is murderously tedious and pointless:

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    Nope, do you know life can have more than one variable?????
     
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    I guess you missed the discussions swirling when the pandemic hit regarding the plan already in place that was intentionally scrapped.
     
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    What would Obama or his team know about it?
    The mainstream media was doing their best to downplay it. So to act like this came from Trump and nobody else is dishonest.

    I know Trump is like Voldemort to you people but I'm not that insane.
     
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    Seems you did to.

    You have no clue what the plan is or if it even existed.
     
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    There plan seemed to be kill the host.
     
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    You mean the Trump plan to just let everybody die?
     
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    I already cited links. You are behind the times.
     
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    It's about time you finally admitted that SK doesn't have any more answers than anyone else and, in fact, are doing worse than many others right now.
     
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    I don't understand why you are arguing with me if you agree with me. You could have merely liked my posts.
     
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    That's what you got out of it? Huh. At the very least, the list of questions outlined for the different eventual levels of infection would have been very helpful. At least, then, there would have been a direction rather than 'it will be gone by Easter'.
     
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    no that's what happened.


    you didn't read that document don't act like you did.
    Historically speaking when it comes to pandemics nothing anybody does really matters. Thinking you can control it for some nature is the ultimate huberous. And some stupid little plan that you pretend like you read that you didn't and I already know you didn't don't act like you did wouldn't do anything.

    Historically speaking these things last for about 4 years. People are going to die just like every other day of human existence and people are going to survive the ones that survive will grow on to breed and pass their genetic material onto the next generation sunrise sunset. No plan no 69 page document that you didn't read this is going to change that
     
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    Back in October 2019, thus, several months before the Pandemic, Hopkins released a global pandemic preparedness study.

    In said study, U.S. had the highest score, and ranked number ONE in many categories, such as; Prevention and Early detection.

    Early in the Pandemic, the UNWISE Trump proudly displayed said study.......at his White House Breifings, and at a few political rallies.

    However, Trump eventually admitted that the U.S. wasn’t prepared to handle a virus “like Covid19”.
     
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    Obama had a pandemic team.

    Before Trump, every president from Carter on improved something about this, even Bush 2. Trump said things like "Gone by Spring"..

    Don't be so sure about that...
     
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    This is a rather idiotic observation. How can you be prepared for something that is unprecedented?
     
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    so? He had zero experience so his advice was meaningless.

    It's like a person owning a pair of skates but never goes skating you don't take advice on skating from that person.

    They just wasted money on useless nonsense and that sums up the Obama administration.
    improved as an extraordinarily charitable word. We don't know that it could have been like that pair of roller skates sitting in the closet. Maybe all they did was waste money.
    you guys wet your diapers constantly about what he said I don't care what he said words are nothing.
    I'm never been as obsessed about a person as you people are about Trump I'm not just sure of that I'm absolutely certain of that.
     
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    For your info, before end of December 2020, the Canadian Province “British Columbia” had already developed and mass distributed an effective Covid testing kit.

    By mid March, this province of 5 million people Covid tested more citizens than the entire United States.

    Pros and Cons.....

    I don’t think Obama’s Pandemic Team would have prevented our CDC’s screwups.
     

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