COVID, what & why. My perspective.

Discussion in 'Coronavirus (COVID-19) News' started by UntilNextTime, Jun 16, 2022.

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  1. Death

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    Thing is you are dead wrong and of course you don't use critical thinking. If you did you would in fact acknowledge the scientific data that shows the impact the vaccine has had world wide in lessening the symptoms and in so doing lowering the rates of persons requiring hospitalization which I presented above in response to another so called fear mongering expert on Covid 19. Like you he repeats falsehoods.

    The vaccines are not experimental any more than any scientific process is. You use the word experimental as if because the vaccine is not guaranteed to be 100% perfect its dangerous. Bull ****. That is classic fear mongering and ignorance. No one is trying to force you to take a vaccine that would kill you.

    Instead of asking on this forum how the vaccine impacts on your immunity system why did you not ask a doctor, nurse. or go one one of hundreds of hospital sites and read how vaccines work?

    More to the point why ask when you made it clear you are not interested in the answer?

    Of course you fear Covid 19. You fear the vaccine because you think the vaccine will kill you. You fear dying and so of course you fear Covid 19 or anything else killing you because you fear death.

    Get real man.

    Find out how the vaccine works. If you fear doctors, nurses, pharmacists, physician assistants, and won't ask them questions, how do you expect to find out?

    What you think turning to people with no medical education to feed you a crock of **** about Covid 19 is the cure to what ails you?

    Get real man.

    The world has always been full of fungi, bacteria, viruses. You will die. You will get diseases and die.

    You can whine all you want about Covid 19 vaccines but you will be the first to demand medical care if you contract Covid 19 and because you did not take the vaccine get complications that might just kill you.

    Good God Man, you have a choice in life.

    Go through it frightened of dying or do what you can not to spread diseases to others and tby avoiding taking up valuable hospital time you could otherwise avoid by taking the vaccine so that when its your time to need the hospital the bed will not be taken up by someone just like you who because of his fear and ignorance got a disease he could have prevented himself from getting.

    Yes man what goes around comes around.
     
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    Blah Blah Blah!
    Believe all the lies you want, the fact remains, people like yourself are in denial and don't want to know the truth, period. When there is sufficient evidence that most get sanitised by big tech, deniers of the truth, yourself, carry on such as this. Did you look at the previous two posts of mine before posting the one I'm quoting you on? Look & listen.

    Who made you & many others take the 'jabs'? How did you and countless others make the decision to take the shots? It was the media, celebrities, politicians and bureaucrats. They are the ones that were and still are doing the fearmongering! Them telling you COVID is deadly, it can kill, you can't work unless you get jabbed. Isn't that fearmongering?

    There is a difference between someone fearmongering and another who is shedding light on a topic that will ultimately destroy humanity, and it isn't COVID. It's the jabs. Many people have died from the jabs, been injured in one form or another and have had countless miscarriages because of the lies and the fearmongering they bought as the truth and saw that the only option was to get jabbed.

    "Irrational anger", pfft. On the contrary, it is you showing irrational anger. As I stated before, people such as yourself are in denial and also carry 'anger' issues, when faced with conflicting information that does not match your own deliberation of critical or lack thereof, thinking.
    Just because my words are justified and yours are not, makes me irrational? Please.

    Now, when you stated this will be your last post, does that mean you've been defeated, given up, got nothing more to say to justify your actions and have been proven that what you've done to yourself may have not been the best decision?

    BTW, I am far from angry. You suggestion that I am is a reflection that you, my friend are the angry one.

    So then, what's your point?
     
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    You said this would be your last post. Irrational anger issues perhaps?
     
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    #Death

    If you're still there, a couple of questions. Before you were convinced that you were going to get vaxxed, did you stop and think, should I do any research on this, or do I just believe everything I know to be true by MSM, celebrities, politicians and bureaucrats? As they'll do my critical thinking for me, right?
     
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    You realize you're trying to tell a person like myself (who may not be conservative but, at least, appreciates conservativism) how to live their life?:roflol:

    What's the saying? My body my choice?...Especially if I have only one body.
     
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    Big pharma profits were the least of it.
    This was about power. Some argue that 9/11 was supposed to keep us great unwashed off of air planes. It didn't work.
    "They" want us locked down. This was just one method. Climate change will be the next "emergency" or "crisis" which will be utilized to lock us down.
     
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    And that's not even scratching through the 1st layer.
     
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    The War on The Unvaccinated Was Lost
    If Covid was a battlefield it would still be warm with the bodies of the unvaccinated. Thankfully the mandates are letting up and both sides of the war stumble back to the new normal.

    The unvaccinated are the heroes of the last two years as they allowed us all to have a control group in the great experiment and highlight the shortcoming of the Covid vaccines. The unvaccinated carry many battle scars and injuries as they are the people we tried to mentally break, yet no one wants to talk about what we did to them and what they forced “The Science“ to unveil. We knew that the waning immunity of the fully vaccinated had the same risk profile as others within society as the minority of the unvaccinated, yet we marked them for special persecution. You see we said they had not “done the right thing for the greater good” by handing their bodies and medical autonomy over to the State.

    SOLIDARITY!


    Source & more...
     
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    It’s pointless to ask doctors and nurses this question because very few know the answer and those that do will lie about it. This forum is the only place to get straight answers to this question because I’m here and I know the answers and I’ll tell the truth.

    The truth is THE ONLY vaccine we use for annual vaccinations (influenza vaccines) has severe negative consequences for the immune system. Repeated annual vaccination with influenza vaccines reduces the efficacy of subsequent influenza vaccinations to the point the elderly do not benefit from influenza vaccination. Here is a meta analysis of studies on the subject.

    https://academic.oup.com/ofid/article/8/3/ofab069/6129135

    Interference with antibody affinity maturation seems to be the main physiological mechanism identified at this time.

    To be clear there are only hints of Covid vaccines behaving similarly, no proof. But the lie that no vaccine has long term negative consequences is a lie. And the only annual vaccination program we have data on shows this is a lie. And nearly every doctor, nurse, and hospital will tell you that lie.
     
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    Remember that time you were trying to disseminate disinformation about Colorado hospitals being overwhelmed with Covid patients and it turned out you were making it up?

    Your claim Oct. 21, 2021.

    Reality:

    My reply.


    You sure about the situation at your hospital? Could you substantiate your claims in any way? Here’s data from October 20, 2021.

    https://stacker.com/stories/17025/counties-lowest-hospital-bed-capacity-colorado

    Here are some Colorado counties with the highest rates of occupancy.

    Counties with the lowest hospital bed capacity in Colorado

    #4. Mesa County, CO
    - Inpatient beds occupied: 76.0% (15.0% by COVID-19 patients)
    --- 7.0% more full than Colorado overall
    - ICU beds occupied: 69.0% (31.0% by COVID-19 patients)
    --- 1.5% more full than Colorado overall
    - Cases per 100k in last 7 days: 366 (565 cases)
    - Population that is fully vaccinated: 43.8% (67,544 fully vaccinated)
    --- 28.0% lower vaccination rate than Colorado


    #3. Larimer County, CO
    - Inpatient beds occupied: 81.0% (15.0% by COVID-19 patients)
    --- 14.1% more full than Colorado overall
    - ICU beds occupied: 42.0% (17.0% by COVID-19 patients)
    --- 38.2% more availability than Colorado overall
    - Cases per 100k in last 7 days: 279 (994 cases)
    - Population that is fully vaccinated: 60.4% (215,600 fully vaccinated)
    --- 0.7% lower vaccination rate than Colorado


    #2. El Paso County, CO
    - Inpatient beds occupied: 82.0% (16.0% by COVID-19 patients)
    --- 15.5% more full than Colorado overall
    - ICU beds occupied: 70.0% (19.0% by COVID-19 patients)
    --- 2.9% more full than Colorado overall
    - Cases per 100k in last 7 days: 343 (2,471 cases)
    - Population that is fully vaccinated: 54.2% (390,344 fully vaccinated)
    --- 10.9% lower vaccination rate than Colorado


    #1. Adams County, CO
    - Inpatient beds occupied: 84.0% (8.0% by COVID-19 patients)
    --- 18.3% more full than Colorado overall
    - ICU beds occupied: 65.0% (28.0% by COVID-19 patients)
    --- 4.4% more availability than Colorado overall
    - Cases per 100k in last 7 days: 265 (1,373 cases)
    - Population that is fully vaccinated: 58.5% (302,943 fully vaccinated)
    --- 3.8% lower vaccination rate than Colorado
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    Just because you may have been misled on hospital occupancy and other aspects of Covid does not mean others that are better informed are loony. If you think someone is incorrect you are welcome to provide evidence. :)
     
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    It's obvious that there's a difference here. From my question to your answer.

    Who is embarrassed now?

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    Yep. They killed a lot of people by their denial of science and withholding of pertinent information people could have used to protect themselves. It’s evil.
     
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    My answers will be in this coloured text.
     
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    Are you a doctor?
     
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    Yes but not a type most are familiar with as few of us see patients face to face. I used to. Pathologist.
     
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