Nope, the majority doesn't always rule UH, here what you don't know.....with rights comes restrictions...for instance, one cannot use another's body to sustain their life A person must have consent to do that...without consent, the fetus is out. I see I explained that in post 69.....uh, reading skills???
I see why you have to resort to cheap shots. Maybe your diversions will cause me to forget my question, right? Wrong. What do you propose we do with all these little beating hearts after they take their first breath? Certainly someone with your superior intellect should have no problem with such a simple question.
You are really steeped on your own philosophy of murder of the unborn obviously. Speed on down the freeway brother because Hell ain't half full yet. Good bye. I cannot endure the ignorance. Iggy list.
In other words, you don't really give a crap about human life; you only want the appearance of caring. The moment someone wants to discuss these precious little lives after 9 months, you turn and run. The dance of the sanctimonious always ends with running away.
Another "philosopher" bites the dust in the abortion debate (not for the first time) ... They make it obvious that philosophy just can't stand up to facts...…….
In the cases where the father..... or the father's parents ....... or the mother's parents or family.........are willing to adopt and raise the child....... I can see this sometimes happening...... especially if the mother was pressured into deciding to have the abortion against her will............ perhaps by the father of the child........ or perhaps by the parents of the mother in question?????
What horsepuckey….the decision is the woman 's alone....If women are pressured into having an abortion it's as bad as being pressured into gestating...and should be reported.
Actually NO...... the father should have some say in whether or not his child is aborted...... and all four of the grandparents could also be given some say in the matter by an ethical and competent justice............
Tell me that one again in the year 2021! Big changes are coming..... and better voter I.D. laws could cause California to even go to President Trump in 2020! If so...... significant changes will indeed soon be made in some USA laws. Could the 2012 election perhaps have been stolen from Mitt Romney?
Your wishful thinking, the opinions of capable justices, and the willingness to adopt still equal zero. I would, however, like to see CA go red. I don't think it will happen, but then again, no one thought Trump would beat Hillary. Even if laws were made, it would only create a demand for black market abortions and medical tourism. It would be equivalent to banning evil thoughts. It is just not enforceable.
So men own the women they impregnate according to you? NO, they don't... OK, since you want to include all this woman's relatives in her health decisions what if Grammy and Grampy and Aunt Edith and Cousin Joe and the guy who impregnated her all SAY ABORT! ????? You think she should be forced to abort ?
This is a strange but true fact. Especially in the MSM. You would think at least Maddow would have something to say ... "crickets".
Yes, I even emailed my state rep about the issue and she has it under the heading "Reproduction Rights" . It isn't about reproduction rights, it's about rights. We live in a very sexist society and the minute some people see "reproduction" they think 'women" so "not very important"...and yet if women lose the right to their own bodies it sure opens up a can of worms...for EVERYONE My state rep apologize to the state repubs because she mistakenly thought they hadn't made an exception for rape and incest in one of their Anti- women's rights bills....she apologized instead of challenging them on it !!! The repubs have a powerful tool for getting the votes of one issue voters and Dems never seem to catch on... Very frustrating...
One ray of hope is that although the establishment MSM does not care about freedom of choice - and individual liberty in general - many people vote on the basis of this issue. Smart Republicans avoid the abortion issue like the plague. Abortion is a demographic time bomb but it is also a turnout time bomb. There are few things that will get Blue voter turnout up more than a threat to the right to choose. A republican gains nothing from attacking abortion rights. The anti abort religious right fundamentalists are already voting Red - heck they will even vote for a child molester over a Blue candidate (or just abstaining). Had one poster (James M) claim directly "better a child molester than a liberal" shocking but true. Should the SC go after R v W ... the Right will lose the Presidency and both houses .. and not regain them until R v W is restored.
I almost hope those dorks manage to overturn R v W - but I doubt this will happen. There is a reason why Establishment Republicans avoid the abortion issue like the plague. The Dems should not be losing elections. The reason Trump won had zero to do with him being Republican and everything to do with the anti establishment movement. Trump was suspected to be establishment but we did not know this for sure - unlike Hillary who is a known Establishment wonk. Michael Moore - after doing town halls all over the US - speaking to Republicans - predicted a Trump win when almost no one else was and the polls were showing a heavy Hillary victory. He said that it was not that the people liked Trump so much but, they wanted to throw a mal tov cocktail into the establishment. On the other side .. Hillary was the worst possible candidate. She had no message - all she did was bash Trump. She did not listen to her advisors. That and she is so arrogant and obnoxious that even Dem women do not like her. We also had the anti establishment movement on the left .. and Hillary is a hardcore Establishment wonk. The Dems could have run "Smokey the Bear" and done better. Despite this .. Hillary still won the popular vote ! A tribute to how much Red is disliked. The anti establishment movement has only grown bigger and women in particular are getting more and more political. The millennials have no time for anti women politics (anti choice) and gay haters. The anti Establishment is against corporate cronyism .. and are fully aware that the tax cuts were essentially a wealth transfer from the middle class to the rich. This group is smart and they are getting smarter and better identifying their target (which was too random and vague during the last election). The people are not as easily seduced by platitudes.. especially not Trump platitudes although I give the dude credit for appearing to shake up the Establishment. Going after women ? Holy carp ... bad move. big blunder on the political chessboard.
Agree, especially about Clinton. I keep asking where are the good Democrats who aren't in the Clinton, Bush, Trump Group of Friends...and they are all friends and I'll even include Obama in that... I feel they are a tight knit club that simply laughs about passing the baton back and forth.. Going after women is a big mistake but it's up to the Democrats to make it less about abortion and more about what it really is, taking away people's right to their own bodies.
I think the people get that on some level - the Abortion issue just brings it head on to the forefront of peoples minds.
