Current welfare system ruining our economy

Discussion in 'Budget & Taxes' started by RadicalRevolutionary, Feb 18, 2016.

  1. bringiton

    bringiton Well-Known Member

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    So the victims of government-issued and -enforced privilege should have to pay just as much to fund the government that issues and enforces the privileges as those who profit by them...?

    Somehow, I kinda figured it'd be something like that.
     
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    No, they should pay for THEIR OWN protection and the benefits they consequently receive, and of which they deprive others.
    No, I want them to stop taking my money, using government as their proxy.
     
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    I hear that most of Somalia, Afghanistan, and a large area of northwest Africa offer you the societal conditions you crave. Why not just go and live there?
     
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    No, I am telling you what has happened, not what anyone thinks has happened. If the victim of a catfish believes the catfish loves them, that does not alter the fact that the catfish is a scammer.
    Try to think of something relevant to say.
    I'm pretty sure you are wrong. Many people know the tax system is unjust.
    They are not participating in this discussion. Hadn't you noticed?
     
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    I think you should calm down.
     
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    bringiton Well-Known Member

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    So you have been comprehensively and conclusively refuted, you know it, and you have no answers. Check.
     
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    Okay, believe that.
    The real reason is that you change the subject with every response making it impossible to continue a discussion with you over time, which I find annoying.
     
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    OldManOnFire Well-Known Member

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    Now you're showing your knowledge?

    Which part is BS? Sovereign nation? 320 million population? Voters choose their representatives?

    Enlighten me...explain what you believe is not BS?
     
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    OldManOnFire Well-Known Member

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    I fully understand diatribe and so do others reading these posts...
     
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    This part "320 million Americans who have chosen a form of government", mostly, but the "is a sovereign nation of 320 million Americans" is also false.

    USA stands for United States of America. It is a union of states. A state is a government. The USA, then, is a union of governments, commonly known as the "Union", "Federal Government" or "General Government".

    Not even a single one of the 320,000,000 people you said chose to form it had anything to do with its existence.
     
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    bringiton Well-Known Member

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    I do no such thing. I quote directly, verbatim, and in-context, and respond relevantly, and I think you know that.
     
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    No. You fully understand that what you dismiss as diatribe is actually facts that you cannot dispute, and that prove you wrong. Others reading these posts also understand that, whether they will admit it or not.
     
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    OldManOnFire Well-Known Member

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    Then why vote?
     
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    OldManOnFire Well-Known Member

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    Whatever...
     
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    How does the debt affect you? How does it affect the average person?

    Would you agree that every dollar spent is earned as income by someone else?

    If that's true, then reducing spending on welfare would result is reduced income by those that provide service to welfare recipients, correct?

    Depending on what you call "welfare", eliminating welfare would result in $1 trillion dollar loss in demand (loss of income). How do you think that would affect the economy?

    Easily debunked. Kids cost more money than any additional welfare benefits provide.[/QUOTE]
     
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