Dad Confronts Warren On Student Loan Forgiveness: ‘Can I Have My Money Back?’

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  1. K9Buck

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    I knew a German guy that, after obtaining his college degree in Germany, moved to the U.S. so that he could avoid paying the exorbitant German taxes. LOL.

    In any event, it's not about education, it's about who pays for it. I say the recipient of the education should pay for it. You say someone else should pay for it. I guess we'll agree to disagree.
     
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    Abolish the student-loan program and abolish the Department of Education and cut taxes accordingly so that people in their local communities can instead vote, if they so choose, to spend MORE money in their local districts as opposed to sending it to Washington to pay for an army of bureaucrats. Or they may have more money in their pockets to send their student to another country as an exchange student. Or maybe they'll pay for their child to learn how to play a musical instrument or to code, etc. Why do you prefer sending money to Washington bureaucrats?
     
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    Your philosophy is that citizens are subjects to the government and to the greater society as a whole and are indentured to serve them. My philosophy is that citizens are private, free people that are free to be whatever they want, so long as they're willing to make the personal sacrifices necessasry to achieve their goals.
     
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    I don’t, I am perfectly fine with the funds staying in the sate. Might as well usher in the quicker demise of the red states — can we do the same with the military?
     
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    I see you are already back to trolling.
     
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    Not at all. Some jurisdictions apparently already require the taxpayer to fund an adult's sexual reassignment surgery. Is that something that you support?
     
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    White communities in red states are doing just fine. Liberals love to bash places like Mississippi but won't acknowledge that it also has, per capita, the highest percentage of blacks in the nation.

    If leftist ideology is so successful, why then does California have the highest poverty rate of any state in the nation?

    https://www.sacbee.com/news/california/article234920662.html
     
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    Do you support ending the student-loan program and abolishing the DoED?
     
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    A lot of them are competing to be the brainwashers. They want to the tuitions high so they'll get a batter salary when they finally get there.
     
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    I already answered this question in the part of the post you edited out.
    Please have the integrity to not do that.
     
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    I answered this in post #83
     
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    Oh so it’s the blacks fault...

    If red states are doing just fine why are they the largest recipients of federal funds? Why are they at the bottom in virtually every standard of living metric including educational attainment?

    I never said “leftist ideology is so successful”, to answer your question though income and wealth inequality along with NIMBY narratives.
     
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    You like asking questions but you don't like answering them.
     
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    Why do some people expect other people to pay for their stuff?
     
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    Ok. Why aren't you there now fighting for them? In any event, why is my son obligated to go die for them?
     
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    Most typically because they think success is entirely luck based and fate owes them.
     
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    So if I want to have my ******* enlarged, you leftists agree that the government (other taxpayers) should pay for it, right?
     
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    I never thought of it that way. You could say then that loans are predatory in that they make students poorer and keep college out of the reach of the poor. It's a huge money making scheme, supported essentially by the government.
     
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    Subjective.

    Terrible idea because everyone would argue their stupid ass gender studies degree benefits society.

    Everyone knows it doesnt, but how are you to deny them free tuition if the stipulation is "this benefits society".

    Speaking of, I mow my yard once a week, which also benefits society. I need a new lawn mower. For free. You know, for society.
     
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    Thats some bullshit. I made $12,000 my first year of college. Like, for the year. With no help from my parents.

    I was approved for student loans. No cosigner, no nothing. Just applied and, voila, they threw money at me.

    Only people who can't are people with serious criminal charges.
     
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    Stalin admirer I see. Since that quote is attributed to him.
     
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    There's a reason that universities overwhelmingly support big-government Democrats.
     
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    Actually, colleges don't keep the poor out of college, they just make people poor with their staggering tuitions while they gain vast wealth and then they tell you to vote Democrat and want "free" education. That's when they'll really cash in!
     
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    I joined the military, worked a couple part-time jobs in college, worked summers, and paid off my student loans last month.

    Awesome.

    The way the liberals want to take this country, I think I am going to start to change my "go getter" ways and just wait for the left to save me and my decisions.
     
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    The same people advocating for free school will be the same people saying that they shouldn't have to pay tax because of rich people.

    Progressive liberalism is a disease.
     
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