Dagestan - the most dangerous place in Europe

Is that what they teach you?
How funny .

Loved your use of the term , "Not everybody" . Guess the sub text is , ' Just Me and my manual for talking to foreigners..... " .
I think the Caucasus Emirate are quite capable of dealing with invaders without the help of imaginary friends thousands of miles away .
Now if you had said the US -- and through Georgia and even some groups in Ukraine , I might have been impressed by your more accurate level of intelligence .
But .
Sadly not .As usual .

 

This describes earth perfectly, whats your solution? Different planets?

 

Sure you're sad!
You always are said when your plans go wrong!


You'd better listen to free and independent sources of information if you want to have a say!

By the way theres no Caucasian Emirates!
This is a term of clandestine rioters and nothing more!
All people who use the same language are riot instigators!

However we know that these muslim friends love to call many lands Emirate.

They call Britain muslim country!

It's patent if the could they would turn London to a muslim country!

 

The victory will have as always the most ruthless, prompt, creative. deprived of any morale principle, cruel, fast and without pangs of remorse!

 

whats about SI? secularization, industrialization

by or may be keep a coastline and give the rest to Iran? Chechnya looks like a tribe-hell to me , and its defiantly not part of Russian civilization

 

Yes, today's Dagestan is not for the faint of heart. But your conclusions are all wrong; the situation there has nothing to do with democracy. Here's the quote for the very story you linked:

"No place on earth is safe from terrorism. Today the Caucasus, Dagestan included, is of heightened interest to terrorist organizations and they try to spread unrest here,"

 

We can fix this problem using Iranian methods too. No problems. But so-called democratic public will start to whine. I did not ask Putin if he has a certain plan. But he already solved Chechen problem. The most simple solution is to separate them from Russia, but it will not solve problems. It will create new more terrible ones. We'll be forced to build The Great Wall of China around of Dagestan in this case.

 

You are right Chechnya is not a part of Russian civilization. But Russia was able to adapt many people. Russia is originally Multiethnic. Chechnya and Dagestan are not the best parts of Russia. But we have no other way but to solve these problems. Otherwise, we'll have this haemorrhoids on our southern borders forever. The USSR had more or less effective ethnic policy and it solved such problems. We must say thanks to Mr. Yeltsin, for all this mess.

 

Yes , Russia is paying the price for its tyranny and the Caucasus Emirate is showing its teeth .
If there had not been so much unforgivable terrorism of Muslims in the Caucasus and also racist intolerance in the stolen Krasnodar Oblast , the future might be solvable . But these people want their rightful independence .
I wonder what mainland action Emir Dokka Abu Usman is planning for the New Year .I certainly will not be visiting the forthcoming Winter Olympics in Sochi !!

 

6 minutes wasted.

 

These young men have returned from the brutalising experience as Army conscripts and without any meaningful future once they return to their crumbling country .It is very hard for them .
We must not lose sight of their difficulties before passing social judgements .

 

3 minutes wasted.

 

the Iranians would do it in name of islam and shiria not sure that you Christians can do so

did he? i thought that Chech,,, is a worst mess , with the islamic warlord in charge

 

the soviet had the enormous resources and main stream ideology, then they used wildly industrialization in order to fight anti-soviet partisans in Belarus, Lithuania and Ukraine

 

Ah well... cannot say we gonna miss you

 

An interesting opinion of well-known in Russia Chechen writer Herman Sadulayev:

"The Russian government has chosen short-sighted tactics of pandering to nationalism and clericalism, vainly believing that "good nationalism" and "good clericalism" can help to stop terrorism and extremism. While the state's position should be calm and firm: no flirting with the confessions , the faith is a private matter of a citizen, the state should provide equal rights and prohibit any attempt to whip up inter-ethnic and inter-religious hatred. Voicing their preferences and distributing labels, the state itself becomes an instigator of enmity!"

http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/1346541

 

Even understated Russian polls show that over 50% of Russians would be happy to see the borders redrawn with -- at minimum -- Chechnya having independence .
The loss of life of young Russian conscripts is alarming . They are fodder to the Freedom Fighters and now the drain on the Russian economy is huge as more and more elite FSB forces are used. Russians resent this waste of money when huge swathes of the central Federation are still without running water and regular electricity and Kadyrov ( Putin's adopted son)is a hundred times more stupid and profligate than Ghaddafi was .

 

Herman is right, but i ll not call him for a Chechen writer

 

thats not even europe but the caucases...

 

Stop trolling Litwin. What Sheriyat? We live in XXI century. There there are some Islamic idiots and bandits paid by foreign secret services. But the majority likes vodka and pork. It's obviously you have not seen dagestanians for a long time. They need job and salary.

 

Do you mean those gangs of bandits and nazi helpers speaking about partisans?

 

troll yourself,
"need job and salary" so whats a problem? and was not it my point form the beginning?

 

all partisans are bandits(more or less), "nazi helpers " some of them yes, some not some were nazi killers . this picture was much more complicate, then you think. my point was that industrialization is very effective ... but lets stick to D-stan´s issue

 

So why are you trolling me about Iran and Sheriyat? Do you think I'm against this point? The problem is our officials and oligarches wait for a kick which will forces them to make something.

 

And so what your so-called partisans? We had Basmachi in Central Asia until the mid of 30s. Many countries from time to time have bandits and outcasts in forests. Colombia many years has the guerrilla. And so what? Probably industrialization has helped to solve this problem. But there was a package of measures. Now the U.S. and Europe are experiencing de-industrialization. I do not think they will be overrun by partisans. So Dagestan needs a package of measures. Including job and salary.