Dagestan - the most dangerous place in Europe

It's not just Dagestan .Ingushetia and Kabardino-Balkaria are just as bad .
And if you think Chechya is quiet under the Russian puppet Kadyrov , think again .
The whole of the Caucasus Emirate is in a Civil War with the Russian invaders .
And last week there was a bust up in North Ossetia with Ingushetians .
Russia is totally out of its depth and doesn't know what to do and is losing a huge number of elite FSB Special Forces .

 

"was a package of measures" - defiantly ,can you specified them?

really? [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp_abyD-FeA&feature=related"]BBC: Paris riots - YouTube[/ame]

 

For my young friends KGB and Rexody .
Part of a message from our equally good friend , Dokka Abu Usman , Emir of the Caucasus Emirate with some nice friendly promises .





The next question concerns the creation by Russia of a so-called North Caucasian District and the exclusion of the Krasnodar Territory from it. Basically, I would answer this question that way that I do not care about their petty intrigues. I don't care a (*)(*)(*)(*) what "districts" they are create, what obligations they take, what shifts in their government they make, what "presidents" they appoint.

This is a policy of infidels, a policy of our enemy. But in this issue, I would like to stress one important thing. Through the creation of the "North Caucasus District" the Kremlin wants to show that the Krasnodar Territory does not belong the Caucasus.

The Krasnodar Territory, as infidels call it, is in fact the land of our brothers, the best brothers and the best Muslims in this world. This is the land of Adygs, the land of Abazins, the land of Circassians.

So I want to state with full responsibility and I bequeath it to the Mujahideen who will come after us, God's willing, they will come, there is no doubt about it, that this is the land of our brothers. And it is our sacred duty to liberate these lands from infidelity. And, God's willing, we will do it, we will achieve this goal.

Therefore, we will never exclude a Caucasian land from the Caucasus.

Moreover, after we liberate the land of our brothers, coreligionists and Caucasian Muslims, we will, God's willing, liberate other lands that are now occupied by Russia. They are Astrakhan and the Volga lands that are now under the heel of Russian infidels.

Therefore, God's willing, we are not going to exclude the lands of our brothers Adygs, Abazins and Circassians

 

raymondo You have a good friend...
Doku (Dokka) Khamatovich Umarov (Chechen: Iумар КIант Доккa; Russian: Доку Хаматович Умаров; also called by the Arabized name of "Dokka Abu Usman") http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dokka_Umarov
Doku Umarov is wanted by Russia and the United States for terrorists acts. The United States has offered $5 million for information leading to his capture. Since 10 March 2011, Umarov has also been on the United Nations Security Council Al-Qaida and Taliban Sanctions Committee list of individuals associated with Al-Qaid
http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/u-s-offers-5-million-t90327.html

 

Brits are friends with terrorists. They are sado-masohists. Otherwise, why would they allow to flow in millions of Muslims, which will colonise them in decades.


While increasing in numbers, they will be blowing Brits. Everybody are happy. Win-win!

 

This movie just proves the rich countries are not immune from this scourge.

If I would know the universal recipe for solution of this problem I'd get the Nobel prize, I suspect.
First of all they need a job.
The absence of corruption in law enforcement agencies and among officials.
Powerful secret services which must work both inside terrorist gangs and inside those who finances them.
Battle-worthy special forces for open fight against the armed formations.
An ideology. The USSR had powerful ideology. If a state has no good ideology which uniting people they start to search it themselves. Religion is one of kinds of ideology and the most accessible kind. Islam is aggressive enough. Dispute it is named the religion of pease.
That's the minimum. Probably I have overlooked something. You may add here something at your will.

 

their are many "Islams" , maybe its a logical on the one hand to promote Shi'ism and Ahmadiyya in this region? on the other keep religion out of political mainstream especially in this region , if you are a politician an you went to Mecca/Rome/etc (then tell to the journalists about it) you cant work for the state any more

 

Religion is the personal decision of every person. You cannot forbid official to trust in God. But there should be an ideology standing above religions and outside of religions. USSR had such ideology. It doesn't matter good or bad but it worked.

 

As you can imagine I am well aware of this . But America only put him on the list just to keep the Russians happy .

But is Dokka a Terrorist or a Freedom Fighter obliged to use Terrorism ?
There is a great deal of evidence that America is supporting the Caucasus Emirate through funds and equipment , probably channeled through Georgia .
That's what the US privately thinks of Russia's invasion attempts in the north Caucasus !!
In modern times , Russia should not have moved the whole Chechen population to Siberia during the great War . Could have been Genocide if they were not such a tough race .
Then allowing them back and treating them like inferiors and serfs did not go down well !!
Russia has found that "what goes round , comes around " , and they are now reaping the whirlwind .
Don't fall for those "hard done by " Russian stories . A partial truth , at best

 

"You cannot forbid official to trust in God" never suggested it. i pointed to rel. institutions and rel. politicians

 

Granny says, "Dat's right - dem Mooslamics gonna muck ever'thin' up...

If Central Asia ‘Becomes Dominated by a Radical Version of Islam, It Will Change the Course of History’
April 30, 2013 – Rep. Dana Rohrbacher (R-Calif.), chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Europe, Eurasia, and Emerging Threats, said Friday that if central Asia “becomes dominated by a radical version of Islam, it will change the course of history.”

 

According to Russian media outlet Novaya Gazeta, a stronger association has been made between Tsarnaev and Mahmud Mansur Nidal -- an 18-year-old insurgent and liaison for a Dagestan-based underground insurgency movement who also helped recruit new members for the group for attacks on Russia. Nidal had been under investigation by Russia’s Center for Combating Extremism (CEPE) -- a division of Dagestan’s Interior Ministry -- for at least a year when he was seen with Tsarnaev, a CEPE source told Novaya Gazeta. The source said Nidal and Tsarnaev were observed together “on multiple occasions.” Nidal was killed by Russian special forces on May 19.

William Plotnikov, a 21-year-old Canadian citizen and native of Russia who converted to Islam, was detained by the FSB -- the successor to the KGB -- following a tip from the CEPE that Plotnikov had ties to insurgents in Dagestan. While being interrogated by the FSB, Plotnikov handed over his Internet contacts, including Tsarnaev. The contacts were comprised of immigrants from the North Caucasus living in the United States or Canada. Plotnikov and Tsarnaev allegedly communicated via the Islamic social network World Association of Muslim Youth. Tsarnaev linked WAMY to his YouTube page, which also contained Islamic extremist material. Plotnikov was eventually released by Russian special forces after they could not find any criminal ties and later killed in a July 14 battle with special forces in Dagestan.

http://www.ibtimes.com/tamerlan-tsarnaev-had-contact-mahmud-mansur-nidal-dagestani-islamic-militant-during-russia-trip

 

senx God Dagestan is not Europe....Putin is a corrupted idiot , why he keeps those scam inside of RF?

 

The acute topic.
That’s right. The situation is very bad in this region.
There’s a negative tendency ppl choose extremist form of Islam (to read –they join to extremist / terrorist groups) there . The bandits from Dagestan and Ingushetia are more active than their Chechen colleagues lately.
+ The stable high level of criminality and corruption. + The high unemployment. Sometimes there are only several alternatives for local youth
- to make a career in public service (but sometimes, if a local inhabitant want to get a job in govt bodies including law enforcement agencies, he should give a bribe or he should have the “right” patronymic name / surname or protection -cronyism )
- to join to local extremist groups ( crime)
- to move to other Russian regions .

Also sometimes Dagestani youth give bribes so as to join the army. But as a rule these soldiers-highlanders from the sunny North Caucasus are the f-ing headache for their commanders and their associates (other soldiers) . >
http://www.rus-obr.ru/ru-web/12432
http://tvorez-porno.livejournal.com/71488.html

Hazing / “Neustavnyak” >





So, in my view our Caucasian policy mostly sucks lately. This region is still a fing big black hole but some ppl in Moscow and in the North Caucasus get a benefit from this situation.

 

+1
same ship different federal subject of the Russian Federation

 

terrible pic.... have those guys (offenders) been punished somehow?

 

the big guys will never be punished ... i talk about House of Saud ....

 

Not long ago one bast got 2 years of deprivation of freedom for the same performance. They sent him to a colony of general regime. But usually this scum goes to disciplinary battalion / “disbat”
[video=youtube;oNkWctm_Om0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNkWctm_Om0[/video]

 

what are you talking about, they get away even with a murder ....[video=youtube;oyS5SZGBKtI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyS5SZGBKtI[/video]

 

You see I’m afraid this is the unsuccessful example.

At first Investigative Committee launched a criminal case over signs of a crime under part 4 of article 111 of criminal code of RF - Intentional infliction of a grave injury which have involved the death of the victim by negligence (some gifted persons from investigative committee «лепили» Mirzaevu part 4 of article 111 of criminal code of RF умышленное причинение тяжкого вреда здоровью, повлёкшее по неосторожности смерть потерпевшего - наказывается лишением свободы на срок до 15 лет )

But there’s no a corpus delicti stipulated by part 4 of article 111 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.

Yes , Mirzaev had fallen Agafonov(victim) but Mirzaev’s punch did not inflict a grave injury to Agafonov.

The examination showed Mirzaev’s force of impact was negligible. And there was not a cause and effect relationship between Mirzaev’s impact and Agafonov’s fall. Agafonov (victim) died not because of Mirzayev's impact but because of hitting his head on the asphalt when he fell after Mirzayev's impact.

Mirzoev has not foreseen the possibility of the onset of socially dangerous consequences of his actions (The subsequent event - Agafonov’s fall, hitting his head on the asphalt , closed craniocerebral injury, Agafonov’s death was not embraced by the intent of Mirzoev), although he could and should have foreseen these consequences
Thus, public prosecutor quite reasonably asked to re-qualify the charge to part 1 of article 109 - Infliction of death by negligence
1. Negligent homicide -
Shall be punishable by restraint of liberty for a term of up to two years or by deprivation of liberty for the same term.
1. Причинение смерти по неосторожности -наказывается исправительными работами на срок до двух лет, либо ограничением свободы на срок до двух лет, либо принудительными работами на срок до двух лет, либо лишением свободы на тот же срок.- part 1 of article 109 of criminal code of Russian Federation

As a result court sentenced Mirzaev to 2 years of restraint of liberty and Mirzaev was released in the courtroom because he had already endured punishment completely. – Mirzaev was in CIZO more than 1 year by the time of sentencing

…The time of custody pending the trial shall be counted in terms of deprivation of liberty, service in a disciplinary military unit, or arrest at the rate of one day for one day, of restraint of liberty at the rate of one day for two days… (part 3 of article 72 - Calculation of the terms of punishment and set-off of punishment)
…Время содержания лица под стражей до судебного разбирательства засчитывается в сроки лишения свободы, принудительных работ, содержания в дисциплинарной воинской части и ареста из расчета один день за один день, ограничения свободы - один день за два дня… part 3 of article 72 of criminal code of Russian Federation.
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So, it was a quite right sentence. The question is - this is too light penalty for negligent homicide But we should readdress this question to legislators.
+ nationality of criminal is not a circumstance aggravating / mitigating punishment

The fact is that we have, to the boot of all that, the interesting thing so-called “public resonance” or “the voice of the disturbed public (mob)” - in the bad sense of the word.

And this thing exerts undue negative influence on law enforcement practice lately.

There were some incidents when investigators according to the law (!) had arrested/released persons and then they (investigators) got a lot of problems due to “public resonance”.

In this case the public resonance has arisen ( читай - sh^t has hit the fan) because the acсused was Dagestani Rasul Mirzaev and the victim was Russian Ivan Agafonov.

“Caucasian killed Russian again!!!”
“Caucasian escaped penalty again!!!”
“Hey look, the criminals сaucasians bribed judges / prosecutors / investigators again!!!”

But the practice says when one Russian Petya Ivanov kills another Russian Vanya Sidorov under the same circumstances, and then an investigator launches a criminal case over signs of a crime under part 1 of article 109 of criminal code of RF (Причинение смерти по неосторожност&#1080 and finally Petya gets as “funny” penalty as Mirzaev got – in this case the “disturbed public” mostly keeps silent.

so it goes…………………..

 

p.s.
In short, it was the unsuccessful example but I understand what you mean. Yes, it happens. Sometimes criminals (not only Caucasians) screw Russian justice.
+I think there is no need to talk that the quality of justice in RF leaves much to be desired. The harsh Russian reality. >
Strigin case – The man who saved his wife and 2 children’s (2 and 4 years old) lives from bandits which broke into his house, got 9 years of deprivation of freedom. Though, there was a necessary defence - ppl. who have carried on this case prove it.

http://newvesti.info/krovavaya-drama-v-stanice-pregradnoj/

the informative report (you may skip the lyrical digression about Ruskolanii etc)>
[video=youtube;oAMqX56bqX4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAMqX56bqX4[/video]

Very competent comment >
[video=youtube;4fndec7U6bg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fndec7U6bg[/video]

 

another amazing story. Kafka can relax.
“Dagestanis take a flat of Russian military man”
[video=youtube;dltywpH96uo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dltywpH96uo[/video]
[video=youtube;wyUyypI_cwU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyUyypI_cwU[/video]

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p. p.s. the interesting video. I guess creators of this film share your opinion as well.
Dagestani social advertising
[video=youtube;hR5ZJlcJuvQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR5ZJlcJuvQ[/video]

p.p.p.s. what the hell is going on in your Sweden? I mean these pogroms. At last multiculturalism decided to screw this European traffic island?

 

I am sorry, as I don't mean to offend, and I may, but what is the difference between a Caucasian (like Daghestani) and a Russian? I know there is a difference of culture, I guess if you add in the historic Islamic presence. But overall, what is the deal? In America, every white person is called "Caucasian" or simply "White"

 

in my view this is the answer

yes, i know but in russia we call "caucasians" persons (native population) from causasus (place-name ). >
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasus

 

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