Data shows that half of 2019 donations to ActBlue came from untraceable 'unemployed' donors

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A Take Back Action Fund analysis of $400M in donations to liberal causes raises red flags of possible foreign involvement

    EXCLUSIVE: Less than two months ahead of the presidential election – with concerns of foreign interference again at the forefront – a conservative political group is raising "serious concerns" about millions of donations reported by a major Democratic fundraising platform.

    A preliminary computer analysis by the Take Back Action Fund, obtained exclusively by Fox News, has found that nearly half of all 2019 donations to ActBlue were made by people claiming to be unemployed.

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    "After downloading hundreds of millions of [dollars in] donations to the Take Back Action Fund servers, we were shocked to see that almost half of the donations to ActBlue in 2019 claimed to be unemployed individuals," he said. "The name of employers must be disclosed when making political donations, but more than 4.7 million donations came from people who claimed they did not have an employer. Those 4.7 million donations totaled $346 million ActBlue raised and sent to liberal causes."

    The trend is continuing this year: An Action Fund examination of 2020 data from January through August showed an uptick in "unemployed" donations through ActBlue, to 50.1% this year.

    Pudner said the large number is a red flag that some donations may be illicit contributions from foreign interests attempting to impact U.S. elections.

    According to the Action Fund, an analysis of WinRed's 4.9 million donations totalling $302 million found that only 4% came from people who did not list an employer or were unemployed. This year, the rate is 5.6%, according to the data.

    "It is hard to believe that at a time when the U.S. unemployment rate was less than 4 percent, that unemployed people had $346 million dollars to send to ActBlue for liberal causes," Pudner said, adding that "4.7 million donations from people without a job ... raised serious concerns."

    And we operate as a conduit, which means donations made through ActBlue to a campaign or organization are considered individual donations," its website explains. But critics, including the Action Fund, contend that the website allows credit card donations that are not verified, so anyone from any country in the world can donate without a paper trail.

    According to the Action Fund, an analysis of WinRed's 4.9 million donations totaling $302 million found that only 4% came from people who did not list an employer or were unemployed. This year, the rate is 5.6%, according to the data.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ex...tblue-came-from-untraceable-unemployed-donors

    OK, a lot of reading to be sure but to me, it's very interesting reading, inviting what our Liberal friends say we Conservatives lack - critical thinking. So, in 2019, 4.7mln donations to a Liberal causes came from people without jobs, and all in form of untraceable credit card transactions that could have come from the Russkies or Chinese...

    OK, let's suppose all donations in question came from good ole American retirees, but let's look at the table. While the Democrats had twice more donations count than Conservatives, the unemployed Democratic donor count was 10 times more than Conservatives.

    Does not compute, unless it is the russkies after all who donated money to a Liberal causes. Or, the Chinese. But we all know this cannot be because the russkies and Chinese both support Trump and the Republicans. Sadly, I'm no Mueller and cannot make sense of this sharade...
     
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    It’s not like there isn’t funny business going on when all the money donated to BLM goes right into Democrat coffers, specifically the Biden campaign.
     
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    Neat. All you have to do is claim that Trump was elected with foreign help, THEN YOU can actually do it.
     
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    Interesting...this needs much further investigating...considering 1) we know the Dems have a history of getting illegal foreign donations from China 2) Biden asked Xi for help 3) the intel community has stated China is interferring in the election for Biden...as well as Iran.

    Time to start a full investigation
     
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    Democrats... they are like the cheating spouse that tries to catch their partner cheating so they can feel justified for their own cheating.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is a loophole, allowing a donor to stay anonymous while donating with a credit card. What is not shocking is that it is the Democrats who are doing it.
     
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    All donations require a name and address. The only anonymous donations are through super pacs. Of course you have the straw donations Repubs like Dejoy use.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Whatever.

    But critics, including the Action Fund, contend that the website allows credit card donations that are not verified, so anyone from any country in the world can donate without a paper trail.

    "ActBlue's insistence on refusing to allow banks to verify their donations is an invitation to foreign programmers or others to send money through them using fake American names, and we encourage them to start letting banks verify the identity of donors to stop the potential for millions of dollars to influence our election," Pudner said.
     
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    Typical Trump fan reaction when presented with facts.

    As for the rest of your bolded argument, credit card transactions require a name.
     
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    Dejoy was unemployed and donated to the democrats.... that's unexpected.

    Source?
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Im sorry, But even an even-tempered Conservative like myself sometimes needs a stoic patience, when dealing with Liberal :D

    As for the rest of my bolded OP excerpt, website credit card donations are not verified, so anyone from any country in the world can donate without a paper trail.

    Is exactly what Democrats are doing.
     
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    And does your silly claim apply to everyone, no matter the employer?
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good night my friend, perhaps you’ll express yourself clearer in the morning :couple_inlove:
     
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    I think that that characterization is just being way too generous to the machinations & underbelly of the Democratic Party, lol... More like contrive / concoct / fabricate / foment a scurrilous & compromising situation 'out of thin air' & run w/ it... (we all here have been through the litany, ... Fusion GPS --> on down, lol)
     
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    Same thing the Clinton's did in '92 & '96. Small untraceable donations from China.
     
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    Ive always said if you want to know what the democrats are up to look at what they are accusing others of doing.
     
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    Sounds GOOD...

    As long as Biden Wins, I could not care less where he gets the money...

    It all spends the same...Just WIN, Baby!
     
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    Commie revolutionary 101: always accuse your opposition of what you are actually doing.
     
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    Does that same notion of carte blanche acceptance apply to the notion of (Ohh well / Gosh darn it) 'whenever they dump the ballots in abandoned parking lots in Glendale, CA by rental trucks / "miraculously" procure truckloads more ballots days after the election...? :) - Some of us are just wondering...
     
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    Does the "End Justify the Means"?

    I have always found the following statement to apply:

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    So the next post or thread you make about Trump doing something wrong, we're free to remind you of this quote, correct?
     
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    Apparently for you... the answer seems to be 'Yes'. At least it's all out on the table, lol... (good luck to you in life w/ that philosophy)
     
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    Citizens United - it is a bitch...
     
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    And this is different from the donation hiding the super PACs do by how?
     
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