Deal reached on avoiding government shutdown

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  1. Mac-7

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    No, it means stalemate

    Democrats are confident they will win the 2020;election

    Which means they can get much more then and are unwilling to offer any compromse now
     
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    Look at all the democrats touching themselves over lack of a wall...when a 5x deported criminal attacks one of your loved ones, dont come crying in here about it
     
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    Well, we have built 600 miles of wall in most critical places (built by Bush and Obama), and tripled border patrol, and added electronic surveillance, so common sense suggests should be catching more than before, and yet the numbers are down 75% (even before the wall was built).

    If walls and more surveillance has caused MORE immigration, when why on earth are we talking about more of the same?
     
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    You just said you have no idea how many have come, and now you claim its 30 million.......

    Whatever suits to mood.....
     
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    I think the longer democrats delay improvements along the border the more illegals can slip through the cracks

    But the noose it getting tighter
     
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    I said no one can say for sure

    But my working estimate is about 30 million
     
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    So if we Domocrats double that before the wall shuts it down and get only 20% of them registered, we should be able to guarantee Democrats in Congress and the White House for the foreseeable future.
     
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    That seems to be rpthe democrat plan
     
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    They can make themselves invisible now?

    Holy crap! Maybe it is a national emergency!
     
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    Why do you bother to post brainless claptrap like this?
     
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    They can because almost the entire 2000 mile border is open to them while the BP cannot be everywhere at once
     
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    I am sorry you feel exposed. I told you border crossings are down by 75% according to official numbers, and you dismissed it by saying no one knows how many come through, and with the next breath you invalidate your own claim by pretending to know how many have arrived.

    Official numbers are based on facts, while your claims are nothing but personal opinions.
     
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    Earlier you said they are not able to walk across, which is why they dig tunnels.

    Pick one argument, and stick with it.
     
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    But you're not sure ?
     
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    I would say at this moment in time, the Democrats are favored to win the presidency. They'll probably keep the house which leaves the senate. I haven't looked too much into the senate to assess it. But the Republicans will be defending 22 seats to the Democrats 12. Alabama will likely switched back to the Republicans. Arizona, Colorado, Georgia, Iowa, Maine, North Carolina are Republican states in play for the Democrats. I would say the remaining 11 currently held Democratic seats are pretty safe Democratic.

    To take control of the senate, the Democrats would need to win four of the six states I mentioned. Arizona, Colorado and Maine are their best chances, that would bring them to 49 if Alabama switches back to the GOP. But we'll see. It probably all depends on whom the Democrats nominate.
     
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    I'm just disgusted by the lack of good faith in negotiations. Which is why we need an independent majority in Congress. That would be the biggest shakeup ever. No one owned by the 'establishment', political pundits, lobbyists, etc. People who can negotiate on behalf of their constituents and on behalf of the people in the country.

    Instead, we're stuck with these losers. I know we're independents of two different stripes, but independents all the same.
     
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    Like Trump said, that's crap.

    Why don't we just put some turnstiles up in the middle of the desert to count them as they cross?

    There is only 400 miles of actual fencing, the other 250 or so is bollards....like posts in front of a 7-11.

    400 out of 2,000....only 20%.....80% wide ass open.
     
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    Who says border crossings are down 75%

    That is an inverifible number
     
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    I want border crossings to be zero

    And then deportation of illegal aliens already here
     
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    Carrying drugs it hard and slow to climb a fence
     
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    Ok

    I am positive that democrats want to import future idemocrst voters
     
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    I am not predicting elections two years away

    But I am saying Democrats intend to win everything in 2020 which is why they are unwilling to compromise now
     
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    The Constitution can never be outdated, it's designed for the Ages, that's why it's Amendable.

    Cons are totally clueless as to the political and social system America was founded on and I cannot understand why as that system is rather clearly delineated in two very famous documents that are seen as models of succinct clarity to this day. Neither one of them says anything about a religious or racial base in America.
     
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