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  1. TCassa89

    TCassa89 Well-Known Member

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    A standard mask won't absolutely protect you from catching the virus, however it does significantly reduce your chances of catching it. They protect both the wearer and the people around the wearer. The dangers in this virus is it can live in your body and be passed on to other people before you are symptomatic. For that reason it is especially important to wear a mask when around crowds of people, or in indoor settings such as a grocery stores. The molecules in COVID are significantly larger than in gases such as o2 or Co2, and while a standard cloth mask won't catch 100% of COVID molecules, it still does significantly reduce your chances of breathing in COVID molecules since said molecules travel through even larger moisture molecules.

    Think of it as a filter that won't catch 100% of harmful molecules, but will catch over 70% of harmful molecules.
     
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    A few things to point out.

    A. Seatbelt mandates make more sense due to the forward inertia in a crash, ejecting people from vehicles with death likely from blunt forces of head trauma. Death is more likely from not wearing a actual safety device like a seatbelt than not wearing a mask.
    B. With a nationwide recovery rate of 94%, its likely even contracting Covid, one would recover than die, which is only 5% of the total population in the US.
    C. Governors cannot tell a citizen what to do, they can only recommend it. Basic civics tells us orders in themselves are not laws. Otherwise, checks and balances would not exist.

    Doctors wear masks as part of the job. In most cases, doctors don’t usually wear masks at all except in the operating room. For basic doctor visits and hospital/emergency rooms, masks are not normally worn by doctors or nurses. Rather, hands are simply washed upon entering and exiting the room, with gloves disposed. I’ve been to a hospital enough to know how it normally works.
     
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    I think what's more telling in your analogy is your willingness to get into the survival rate of COVID-19, without at all getting into the survival rate of vehicle usage. On a normal year your average full time worker drives to and from work more than 200 times in a single year. The rate at which people experience a car accident is far less than 1% of the time that they travel on the road, and even then so, when people do get into an accident, they survive the vast majority of the accidents that they do get into

    Overall approximately 39,000 Americans died from car accidents in all 12 months of 2019 combined, vs approximately 161,000 Americans who have died from COVID-19 just in the first 7 months of 2020 (and that is while practicing lock downs). If you're trying to argue that car accidents are a bigger risk to American lives than COVID-19, you are blatantly wrong

    Furthermore, people who do survive the virus are also prone to permanent damage to the lungs, heart, and nervous system. So even if you do survive the virus, your life expectancy is expected to go down. And again, another thing to consider is when you do not wear a seat belt, under no circumstance are you putting anybody else's body at risk, where as when you go out in public without wearing a mask, you are potentially putting everyone you come into contact with at a risk.

    To argue the survival rate of COVID-19 without taking any of these other factors into consideration displays a complete lack of effort to put any critical thought into your argument
     
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    Yet when I suggest to leftists this could be remedied by wearing a mask, they react with anger and deny scientific evidence to avoid wearing a mask in such places. It’s so very strange. Right leaning folks resist masks mandated and/or suggested to be worn in low risk environments, but left leaning folks resist wearing a mask in higher risk environments. :)
     

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