Dearborn, Michigan Arab Festival

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  1. protectionist

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    For you to call Islam a "religion" defines you in this forum as UNINFORMED. Only problem is I just now gave you the information you need to know that Islam is not a religion. So what does leave you to be defined as ?
     
  2. SFJEFF

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    The Westboro Church is exactly like the "Christians" who went to the Arab Festival to antagonize the Muslims. Neither of them were violent- we agree with that.

    And there is no excuse for the idiots that attacked them. But you insist that the idiots who attacked the Christians in Dearborn must be labeled "Muslim attackers" while you have no apparent interest in whether the attackers of the Westboro Baptists Christians were Muslim or Christian or Hindi?

    We are both in agreement that free speech is a right.
    We are both in agreement that violence in response to free speech is wrong and illegal.

    Where we differ is that you want to label every Muslim for the actions of a few individuals.

    As I said- 300,000 people attended this festival- how many broke the law and were violent? 10? 20?

    There is never an excuse for violence over a constitutional right in the United States. Your opinion may be that their speech is "deliberate antagonism", but it is still legal.

    A Republican Missouri state legislator has decided to fix that by introducing a bill to legalize the use of force against someone who burns a flag

    "You should be able to take hold of the flag and take it off the ground and rescue it," states Rep. Sam Gaskill of Washburn, a former Vietnam fighter pilot, told the Associated Press. "If the guy doesn't want to let go of it or he swings back, then the person ought to fight back."

    Asked by a reporter whether his bill would allow someone to take aggressive action against a flag-burner, he responded, "I'm sure they could."
     
  3. SFJEFF

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    I am proudly as uninformed as John Adams and Thomas Jefferson.

    And the IRS agrees with me, and thinks your arguments are idiotic.
     
  4. SFJEFF

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    Lol.....aren't you going to ask me if I am a Jew again?

    What about the extremist Christians at the Arab Festival- how do we tell whether they are all atheist liberals disguising themselves as Christians are you are?
     
  5. protectionist

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    Key word is "antagonism". When you try to educate a Muslim out of his ignorance, he considers it antagonism. Muslims have a whole different set of definitions than do normal Americans. And when you try to convert a Muslim away from Islam, he considers that antagonism. He should be saying THANK YOU.
     
  6. SFJEFF

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    People get offended by the 'Truth" all the time. Which is why the Westboro Baptist Church loves to offend people with their version of the TRUTH. I could make all sorts of claims as to what the 'TRUTH' of Christianity is....but why would I deliberately attempt to offend Christians who have a deep faith in their god?
     
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    Huh?

    Where the christian jihadists at?
     
  8. protectionist

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    off topic !
     
  9. SFJEFF

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    Still waiting to hear why it was important for you to know whether I am a Jew or not.

    Do Christian Jihadists need to know for some reason whether I am?
     
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    waaaa waaaaaa "someone is not bashing Islam" waaaaaa waaaaa

    LOL
     
  11. Dusty Rhodes

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    There were no Westboro Christians there. Get back to the facts. There were Christians who were there legally. They were attacked because of their message by violent muslim extremists.
     
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    Doesn't matter who agrees with you. Islam has no code of ethics. It is a code of UNethics. No way it could be called a religion.
     
  13. protectionist

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    1. the Westboro Baptist Church is OFF TOPIC.

    2. You can make any claim you want about the TRUTH, but you can't rewrite history. Mohammad was a pedophile, and Muslims who deny it are simply living in mindless denial.

    3. Why you would or wouldn't attempt to offend anyone has nothing to do with this thread. Nobody is attempting to offend anyone about anything. If Muslims get offended by hearing the TRUTH, that's a problem that they bring on themselves.
     
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    The Westboro Church is exactly like the "Christians" who went to the Arab Festival to antagonize the Muslims. Neither of them were violent- we agree with that.

    And there is no excuse for the idiots that attacked them. But you insist that the idiots who attacked the Christians in Dearborn must be labeled "Muslim attackers" while you have no apparent interest in whether the attackers of the Westboro Baptists Christians were Muslim or Christian or Hindi?

    We are both in agreement that free speech is a right.
    We are both in agreement that violence in response to free speech is wrong and illegal.

    Where we differ is that you want to label every Muslim for the actions of a few individuals.

    As I said- 300,000 people attended this festival- how many broke the law and were violent? 10? 20?

    There is never an excuse for violence over a constitutional right in the United States. Your opinion may be that their speech is "deliberate antagonism", but it is still legal.

    A Republican Missouri state legislator has decided to fix that by introducing a bill to legalize the use of force against someone who burns a flag

    "You should be able to take hold of the flag and take it off the ground and rescue it," states Rep. Sam Gaskill of Washburn, a former Vietnam fighter pilot, told the Associated Press. "If the guy doesn't want to let go of it or he swings back, then the person ought to fight back."

    Asked by a reporter whether his bill would allow someone to take aggressive action against a flag-burner, he responded, "I'm sure they could."
     
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    You just can't stand that I am pointing out that other Christians are just as provocative as your Christians. It is completely on topic.
    Bible Believers attend Arab Festival and taunt attendees and are attacked by some individuals
    Westboro Baptists church attends military funeral and taunts attendees and are attacked by some individuals.

    What is the difference between these two- other than the second one doesn't further your agenda of attacking Islam?
     
  16. protectionist

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    What gives you the ability to say that the Christians in the video were there to antagonize ? As I recall watching the video, the guy who was preaching wasn't antagonizing, he was a missionary attempting to convert the Muslims to Christianity.
     
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    The gospel is hatespeech to the unsaved.
     
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    How do you
    without restricting free speech?
     
  19. SFJEFF

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    Westboro Baptist Church would agree with you entirely. They are just practicing their constitutional rights.

    And all those people burning American flags.

    Just practicing their constitutional rights.
     
  20. SFJEFF

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    I have the ability to type on a computer, so that gives me the ability to write whatever I want within policy here.

    And you are not going to convert many people by yelling at them that they are going to hell or that Mohammed was a pedophile.

    Or by carrying a pigs head.

    Just my opinion- which according to the First Amendment I have a right to.

    Oh and they are just like the Westboro Baptist Church.

    Can't wait for you to tell on me again.....not surprising for someone who wants the government to arrest people for their faith.
     
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    So lets recap:
    1) You were upset with what I said so you went running to the moderators to tell them what a meany I am.
    2) You want everyone to be scared of the big bad Moooooslims- the scary scary Mooooslims.

    I really have no idea what it is like to go through life filled full of fear and hate like that.
     
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    Faith ? LOL. Funniest thing I've heard all day. Referring to the worlds longest running, and biggest con job ever as a "faith".

    You still don't have the ability to define the Christians at a Muslim rally as antagonizers. Quite obviously, they were missionaries as revealed just by their signs alone.
     
  23. protectionist

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    The REAL recap:

    1. You got reported for being OFF TOPIC.

    2. Everyone should be scared of Muslims. Over 1400 years, they've killed 270 million people. They are murderers (by their creed the Koran) They are wife-beaters, pedophiles, rapists, etc. And they are subversives, constantly trying to impose their deranged culture on normal people. This is hard to figure out ? :roll:

    And you're right > you really have no idea. :laughing:
     
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    And you're off topic while you're doing it.

    And the report button is for posters, not moderators.
     
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    Where do you get the idea that somebody is taunting somebody ? Looks like the Christians are supplying the poor, foolish Muslims with information that could lead to those Muslims quitting Islam, and becoming Christians. Bunch of lucky Muslims.
     

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