Death and despair as gunman opens fire at Oslo gay bar on Pride parade day

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  1. Bowerbird

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    It sure did!
     
  2. Bowerbird

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    That is an excuse not a rationale

    if it is “cultural and logistical” then why can those factors not be addressed to reduce gun violence?
     
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    Yeah blaming immigrants without knowing who did it is pretty racist
     
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    Pretty sure they know who did it.

    Is it racist when the mass shooter is white and people assume his religion?

    Let me guess probably not....
     
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    Racism is often used as a shorthand for things like sexism, ethnocentrism, jingoism, religious intolerance and in the case of you who doesn’t get it, a shorthand for explaining why a racist will try to ignore the problem.
     
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    You mean in the context of the US? Where right wing terrorists you cuddle and support shoot schools up?
     
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    Sooooooo other countries do not have what?

    interesting though the highest number of rapes are “White”. Same for aggravated assault, burglary, and in fact nearly every category but murder

    And these are the stats for ARRESTS not CONVICTIONS
    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/table-43

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    as that what you were referring to?
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  10. FatBack

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    So one of your sources agrees that it was a mass shooting and from what I have read the FBI defines it the same way.

    You do know that the overwhelming majority of mass shootings in the United States consist of gang violence in urban areas correct?
     
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    You keep making your personal attacks but I noticed you completely dodged the question.

    It appears that your allegations of racism are entirely based on skin color and politics. This is why no one listens to the boy that cries wolf
     
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    Yes Islam is known for it's widespread acceptance of homosexuality, and why bother using accurate words when conveying ideas.
     
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    I hope they throw the book at him. Looks like he was going for maximum damage and decided to shoot up a very populated area.

    Norway: Deadly Pride attack suspect jailed, refuses to talk (yahoo.com)

     
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    Incorrect. The statistics you have been quoting include any incident where four people not including the perp are shot. The Oslo shooting would be counted in the statistics you bandy about without knowing what they mean.
     
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    No you don’t. If you had you would know the US statistics you quote include any incident where four are shot. Has nothing to do with fatalities.

    Educate yourself.

    The very FIRST incident listed as a mass shooting in YOUR gun violence archive link had NO fatalities.

    You do NOT do research.
     
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    She is posting disinformation. Never take her statistics at face value.
     
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    Seems like a good precaution:
     
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    You do understand that this person was targeting people just like you right? But yet here you swoop in to make excuses for them
     
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    In the US it would be 20 dead, not 2. 2 dead doesn't even make headlines here.
     
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    But, gun control is supposed to stop these attacks.
     
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    Perhaps you could tell us who said that gun control will stop attacks like the one in the OP?
     
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    I said 54% of MURDERS. Since the topic was people being murdered and all. The issue still remains we have a toxic black culture problem that isn’t seen outside of the US. Blacks commit waaaaay more crime than would be expected from being only 13% of society. 70+ % of black households have no father figure, they have a mean IQ of 86 with a distinct lack of focus on education, a serious lack of impulse control and a high incarceration rate. We don’t have a gun problem we have a people problem.

    It’s ok, all we get are people crying about gun crimes but no one wants to address who is committing the crimes. You’re 5 x more likely to be murdered by another black person if you’re black, and whites have a 43x more likelihood of being a victim of felonious assault by blacks. Math doesn’t lie.
     
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    would you be so kind as to list the right wing terrorists who shot up schools in the US?
     
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    But the vast majority of mass shooters are “white”

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    That's the argument that anti-gunners make all the time.
     

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