Debunking The Misleading Panic Over 3-D Guns

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  1. REALITY CHUCK

    REALITY CHUCK Well-Known Member

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    Ever hear of a zip-gun?
     
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    Duh.

    Illegal.

    Duh.
     
  3. Xenamnes

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    The above assumes everyone has immediate access to a federally licensed firearms dealer. Such is simply not the case. If one must travel outside of their city of residence to perform a legal purchase, then it is indeed harassment.

    Beyond that particular matter, in the Heller ruling, the united state supreme court said even a three second delay in the ability to have a firearm immediately ready for the purpose of self defense was an unconstitutional infringement.
     
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  4. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if we mandate UBC, NICS checks should be made available for free at all local police stations. ATF pays the bill.
     
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  5. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think what they are concerned about is that people who obtain or already have 3D printer could make a couple hundred guns a day and sell them to gang members and other criminals. However, I am sure he hat there are already laws on the books making it illegal to sell such items.
     
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    Xenamnes Banned

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    How well did that work in the state of Nevada?
     
  7. Rucker61

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    Colorado wouldn't agree to that. Their background checks are more inclusive than the standard NICS checks. And the police don't have the staff for it, nor do they want people bringing guns into the police station.

    There is still no way to enforce them.
     
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    why should I have to travel to a police station. BTW explain, in light of Lopez, how interstate commerce is impacted by me selling a used firearm to a friend in a transaction that has to be INTRAstate
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have no idea how readily accessible drugs and guns are on the black market in seedy neighborhoods across the country.

    In other countries in the world (Mexico, South Africa, for example) there's a lot of police corruption. They'll confiscate drugs and guns from one criminal and turn around and sell them to another. The amount of corruption in the U.S. is only going to increase as it becomes more like a Third World.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    GCAs know that, it isn’t the underlying purpose of their call for a UBC to require background checks for private sales. Neighter is the supposed privacy issue the reason why they oppose private citizen access to the NICS. They keep chipping away, trying to backdoor gun registration by cloaking their true intentions.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    That is definitely true south of the border. But, don’t get caught with one as an American unless you pay the right people the hidden permit fees. Otherwise, you will get jailed and ransomed... happened to a friend in Merida in the early 80’s (lost his 40’ schooner as well... became off shore brotheral for the military).
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's probably unlikely these gang members would even want them. (since they don't tend to work very well, inaccurate, less reliable, only good for a limited number of uses)
    Not unless there was a severe crackdown and conventional guns became a lot harder than they are now to get.
    But that would probably make things headed in the direction of a Soviet-style police state.
     
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    to quote you==I am not the topic

    the fact is you support laws designed to harass honest citizens
     
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    why don't you back up that claim?
     
  15. Moonglow

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    It has more to do with copyright infringement than anything else.
     
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    Pray tell how so?
     
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    a 3 minute background check isn't "harrassment".

    its time to check your email
     
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    If one has to travel outside of their city to have the background check performed at the nearest federally licensed firearms dealer, it is indeed harassment.
     
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    wow, you greatly expanded the definition of "harrassment".
     
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    In the wake of the McDonald ruling by the united state supreme court, the city of Chicago enacted new firearm-related restrictions and regulations. One of them specified that anyone who wished to own a handgun would have to travel outside of the city to get the mandatory firearms training, because they city was not going to allow any firing ranges to be built within the city. The courts struck down this requirement as unconstitutional, because it discriminated against individuals on the basis of income.

    It is legally no different in this case.
     
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    Crikey, we've got one and didn't even realise we could supply you all! Don't be thinking Xmas is coming early, we won't be...
     
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    Not all such printers are designed and created equally.
     
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    You've been told repeatedly that this isn't the case in every state, nor are the fees the same, that this won't reduce criminal access to firearms and has resulted in almost no arrests.
     
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    I love how you type the bleedin obvious and pretend you have a point.
     
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