Don't need much evidence to work out that it was BS MSM narrative and it was the man/men on the grassy knoll or stormwater drain. If you look at the way JFK's head goes backwards when shot in the forehead, typical of that kind of dynamic caused by that kind of physics, going backwards after being shot from in front. Then look at where they placed Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO), behind the presidential cavalcade. If LHO, shot JFK, then the head and body would have gone forward. LHO was the patsy. He was the donkey they pinned the tail on.
Once again as pointyed out in gthe last thread there was no shooter in the front. Bodies do not move from bullet impact. Bullets are too small for that. There was no possible way for anyone to be secluded in front of Kennedy and no corresponding entrance wound on his head or body. It was jet effect and neurological reflex which caused that famous movement. Also no one placed Oswald anywhere.
All that is based on your limited knowledge of firearms and projectile dynamics. Yes, a pistol at a great distance = fail. A rifle at a great distance, beyond 300m too easy. Snipers make those kinds of kill shots on operations nearly on a daily basis. It's amazing the effects of kinetic energy. Anatomy of a Headshot Animation of gunshot wound Yes, by what? Oswald was behind and high of the presidential cavalcade. The kill shot came from the front and at a lower angle than Oswald's position. Did the bullet fired from Oswald's weapon do a 'U-turn', if he fired at all? Just like the bogus 'offical' report for 9/11. Fabricated so that a second shooter wasn't in the picture.
Wrong. A bullet, even a high powered riufle bullet does not push people or their heads as you claim. even your links fail to show one they only talk about it. You kjow little about firearms and projectiles as proven by your statements which are based on movies as opposed to reality. Once again there was no shooter to the front of JFK period. There was no second shooter and the movement of JFK's body does not prove one. There was no bogus report for 911 either..
It proves more knowledcge about it than you. Once again your knowledge comes from fictional movies. Bullets do not push bodies that way and there is no evidence of a dshooter from the front. You willfully ignore proven forces such as neurological resoinse and jet effect. Why? because they ruin your claim. You ignore the lack of entrance wounds supporting yoru claim and the impossibility of anyone in front being secluded. You ignore the lack of other bullets from a different gun. ALL the recovered bullets and bullet fragements were matched to oswald's rifle to the exclusion of all other rifles and no others were recovered. Your entire argument is based on a weak understanding of physics and firearms.
Have you fired a rifle, pistol or a BB gun? At a live target, even at corflute targets, being down range under the mantlet where the bullet meets the target? Have you witnessed what the rounds do? The videos provided were for you to understand the physics of the bullet. The computer animation in the second video demonstrated that the body does move when shot. It's the result of kinetic energy transfer. The evidence can be easily manipulated, testimonies falsified to cover the truth. In Australia, 1996, Port Arthur, Tasmania. Martyn Bryant kills 35 people and injures a dozen more. Martyn Bryan was, 'special', he could hardly string a sentence together or tie his own shoelaces. Witnesses claimed he was firing two semi-automatic military-style rifles. Now the autopsy reports stated that many of the dead had bullet wounds to the head. 'Third eyes' slightly above and centre of the eyebrows. How can a numpty, make kill so many and most with a 3rd eye kill shot firing from the hip. I am ex-military, trained to shoot ranges and combat styles, and I would have great difficulty pulling off what he did. He had no training skills or background, yet he manages this kind of feat. Amazing what a lone gunman can do and how he was doing it. Facts, testimonies, evidence, reports etc. They can be changed, manipulated, planted, removed, falsified/fabricated, bribed & coerced. All to adjust the narrative so that the agenda and motive are not revealed. Is it that difficult to comprehend?
The videos prove no such thing ad they do not include actual video they merely talk and liukew you they are not talking ewith expertise, Yes I have massive experience in shooting and you are simply wrong about how bullets move people on impact THAT IS FACT Saying that something CAN be falsified does not prove it was anything CAN be falsified or in fact YOU can simply be incorrect and posting fallcies based on ignorance.. Which you are
Then you have a blindfold on. I understand most of this statement except for "liukew". You have a limited imagination, haven't you? Of course, things can be falsified. It's just because it challenges YOUR paradigm. I bet you believe everything you hear & see on MSM, hey? You have no critical thing capacity of your own. Which am I. Is that a question? Which am I what? Would you like to challenge me more on body movement when shot?
Apparently you have a reading comprehension problem. I agreed that anything CAN be falsified but that means NOTHING. You have to demonstrate proof that a specific thing WAS falsified. You cannot do so. I have not challenged you at all on body movement when shot I have demonstrated and proven your clakc of comprehension of physics and firearms. Repeatedly showing Kennedy being shot proves NOTHING. The evidence proves conclusively that Oswald shot him and no one else. Your weak understanding of how gun shots affect the body not withstanding..
You couldn't see the CGI simulated graphics video, that the flesh moved when shot. You fail to recognise the position of LHO, and ridicule what I have presented. Showing the footage of Kennedy's assassination proves a number of things. It proves that a body/headshot can move the body or head. It also proves that someone fired from in front of the cavalcade because of proven footage showing the head/body movement came from the front, LHO was behind the presidential cavalcade. As I stated earlier, how can a weapon fire from behind create a shot from in front? As I stated before, did the projectile do a miraculous U-turn? Hardly. Everything I have presented to you backs all my claims. It's your lack of ability to connect all the dots. Why do you see nothing presented to you? Because you're fixated on your understanding of events. My weak understanding is it? More like your lack of comprehension. Before you dig your grave even deeper, take a look at this. Seriously, have a good read. An Introduction to the JFK Assassination
Simulations prove nothing they present what the create WISHES to show. There was no shot from the front. I have superior comprehension. The position of LHO is precisely where all of the shots came from. The shot did not come from the front. That is proven fact. Your hollywood image of how bullets work on the body is laughable. NOTHING you have presented backs up your claim. You do not back up a claim by showing what you are trying to interpret. The fact is all of the consipracy theories have been disproven. The argument is over and the evidence proves you wrong.
I take it you haven't read the article? That's ok, we'll do it the embarrassing way. I'll just copy and paste the relevant info. A conspiracy theory becomes a conspiracy, when the facts and evidence outweighs the official narrative Interesting points to consider Where Did the Shots Come From? Shots from the Texas School Book Depository Several witnesses claimed that at least one bullet was fired from the Texas School Book Depository, on the north–eastern corner of Dealey Plaza, behind President Kennedy. For example: Howard Brennan was standing opposite the TSBD, and saw a man with a gun in a sixth–floor window (Warren Commission Hearings, vol.3, pp.143 and Warren Commission Hearings, vol.19, p.470). Geneva Hine was on the second floor: “[the shots] came from inside the building … the building vibrated from the result of the explosion” (Warren Commission Hearings, vol.6, p.395). Patricia Lawrence was standing outside the TSBD: “I thought the shots had come from right over my head ” (Warren Commission Hearings, vol.22, p.660). There was also strong physical evidence that shots had been fired from the TSBD. Three empty bullet shells, and a rifle, were found on the sixth floor of the building. The shells were matched to the rifle and to some, but not all, of the bullet fragments retrieved from President Kennedy’s car. Shots from the Grassy Knoll Around 40 witnesses claimed that at least one bullet was fired from the direction of the infamous grassy knoll, about a hundred yards to the west of the TSBD, in front of President Kennedy. For details, see Grassy Knoll Witnesses. The Warren Commission in 1964 had been given the task of showing that the assassination was the work of one person, and that all the shots had come from one direction. Consequently, the Commission brushed aside the evidence of shots from the front. The House Select Committee on Assassinations in the late 1970s, however, accepted that at least one shot had been fired from behind the fence on the grassy knoll. Shots from the Front and the Back Other evidence supports the notion that shots were fired both from in front of and behind the president: One of the doctors who treated President Kennedy at Parkland Hospital announced in a press conference that Kennedy’s throat wound was caused by a shot from the front. The matching bullet holes in Kennedy’s jacket and shirt, coupled with the only contemporaneous written account of the autopsy, show that one shot hit the president in the back. Where Was Oswald During the Shooting? Oswald’s Statement Lee Harvey Oswald’s own account of his whereabouts no longer exists. He spent just under two days in police custody before he was shot dead in the police station basement. During that time, he was interviewed for around 11 hours, and was surely asked about his precise location at the time of the shooting. Because the Dallas police did not take the trouble to use either a tape recorder or a shorthand secretary, the only records of Oswald’s interrogation are the partial accounts written by his interviewers some time after the event. It appears that he claimed to have been on the first floor of the TSBD at the time of the assassination; see Lee Harvey Oswald’s Alibi. Witnesses and Photographs There is no definitive evidence of Oswald’s location at the time of the shooting: Howard Brennan’s description of a gunman on the sixth floor of the TSBD roughly matched Oswald’s appearance, but two other witnesses claimed that the gunman did not look like Oswald. Brennan failed to identify Oswald as the gunman when he saw him at the police station later that day. For details, see How Did Oswald Shoot JFK?. A fellow employee of the TSBD, Carolyn Arnold, claimed to have seen Oswald on either the first or second floor at the same time as the gunman was seen on the sixth floor. It has been claimed that a well–known photograph shows Oswald standing on the front steps of the TSBD during the shooting, but the man in question was almost certainly Billy Lovelady, a colleague of Oswald’s. Two news films, however, show a man who may well have been Oswald, standing in the shadows of the TSBD’s main entrance; see Who Is ‘Prayer Man’?. For a detailed account of Oswald’s movements at the time of the JFK assassination, see Howard Roffman, Presumed Guilty: How and Why the Warren Commission Framed Lee Harvey Oswald, Fairleigh Dickinson University Press, 1975, pp.209ff (available online at http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/PG/PGchp8.html). Did Oswald Fire the Shots? Since Lee Harvey Oswald was almost certainly somewhere inside the TSBD during the JFK assassination, he cannot have had anything to do with the shot or shots that were fired from in front of President Kennedy. Nor, as it turned out, did Oswald have anything to do with any of the shots that were fired from behind the president. The Dallas police tested his skin for evidence of gunpowder residues, and discovered that there were no incriminating quantities of such residues on his right cheek. Their finding was confirmed by the Atomic Energy Commission’s neutron activation analysis, which also demonstrated that the rifle Oswald was supposed to have used would certainly have left such deposits. In the words of an unpublished Warren Commission memo, “At best, the analysis shows that Oswald may have fired a pistol, although this is by no means certain. … There is no basis for concluding that he also fired a rifle” (Memo from Redlich to Dulles, 2 July 1964, Investigation and Evidence File, RG 272, Series 12, box 4, folder 3, National Archives). For details, see Oswald’s Rifle and Paraffin Tests. In short, Oswald almost certainly did not shoot President Kennedy from anywhere.
You were saying? BTW, you called the fat lady to sing too early. But she's more than welcome to begin singing now. That must be a PF record. Haven't even filled the page with posts.
~ Two books you likely know about : 'Case Closed ' by Posner ; ' Reclaiming History' by Bugliosi answered all the questions I wondered about concerning the JFK assassination. These two authors were very good information detectives and throughly looked at all possibilities. I believe that Bugliosi interviewed Marina Nikolayevna Oswald Porter. Both authors came to the same conclusions.
You take it wrong I read it a long time ago it is old news and long since debunked. There were no shots fired from in front of Kenned he did however fire all of the shots as we know. First of all the vast majority of all witnesses heard them coming from where Oswald was at. Only a few ( not 40 ) heard them coming from elsewhere. The House Select Comittee did NOT claim or accept that any shotrs were fired from the knoll. They issued no such conclusion or statement. All of which is irrelevant as ALL of the physical evidence proves they came from Oswald and witnesees are not reliable especially ear witnesses. Either way the ear witnesses overwhelmingly supprot the physical evidence. No doctor had a press conference agfter the fact and the ones claiming a shot from the front were not in fact attending physicians. Neutron acitivation analysis applies to the bullet fragments all of which were matched to Oswalds rifle and no other. The Parafin test was applied to his skin and has nothing to do with neutrino activation analysis. The paraffin test was unreliable and produced no credible results either way. The fat lady has sung for you not me. The evidence stands that Oswald acted alone and your theories are DISPROVEN
