Defeating the bogeyman of single payer healthcare

Lots of criticism over Bernies, "Medicare for All" bill has been made but without looking at the larger picture.

What people overlook is all are entitled to good health. Most of us take health for granted, and those of us who have had loved ones quickly spiral downward from being fine to critically ill to death know that from second hand experience. The taxation from Bernies bill really is a return on investment. The investment is good health, with decreasing likelihood of ER visits or $500 ambulance bills.

Income and occupation should not be what determines whether someone can have access to healthcare, or even health status. What tends to get lost in the echo is the fact single payer refers to health insurance, and not necessarily healthcare delivery.

The idea if I pay more in taxes for single payer healthcare, then look at how much I pay iout of pocket for meds and hospital bills, the former is outrageous really makes no sense. Money is money either way, we would be spending around the same amount, give or take, yet providing a service to our citizens. The uproar is really no more than a diversion.

This is why single payer is gaining in popularity, people are waking up to the reality the days of insurance companies picking and choosing who gets healthcare based on pre-conditions or whether or not I'm full time are over.

 

Healthcare needs to be a right like any other right

 

Is it really that hard for people on the right to understand single payer is the future of healthcare?

 

Yes just what we need, system where in the government determines how much health care you can have unless you are rich enough to fly overseas on your own dime. If that's the future, I count myself lucky that I likely won't live to see your brave new world.

 

just like the second amendment.

but sorry, you're going to have to use your own money to buy your guns.

 

It's really hard for me to understand why if single payer is the wave of the future, we don't have a single state that has it yet? Vermont, Colorado, and California have all had proposals, and didn't follow through. If Vermont and California, as blue as they are, won't pass it, why would the GOP dominated US Congress?

 

You mean as opposed to what we have now where a rich guy at the insurance company decides how much health care you get based on your impact on his bottom line, salary, and bonuses?

 

Anything that requires the confiscation of property won basically by labor can never be a right. Slavery is supposed to be a bad thing isn't it? Gosh, do you think the founders never needed to see a doctor?

 

I shouldn't have to pay for other people's reckless and unhealthy life styles plain and simple

 

Democrats want to take away the healthcare policies of 180 million Americans. They want everyone to lose their insurance and take what government gives them instead.

 

Watching the Republicans advance proposals to deny health insurance to millions and makevit even more expensive for everyone else helped!

 

Like having an army? Who pays for that?

 

What healthcare services do insurance companies provide?

 

None, like government. Doctors and nurses do that. That is why it is a service industry. Does the 'right to eat' means government should take over restaurants?

 

Insurance companies add 30% to the healthcare bill.

Single payer wouldn't be like the VA.

 

Laughable. Healthcare insurance companies have one of the lowest profit margins. You seem to think government can run it more efficiently than those that actually have a competitive reason to be efficient. I take it you have never dealt with government.

 

I worked for Col HCA.. ...

Insurance companies have lots of money to invest... What is their profit margin?

 

Between 3-4%. Of course they have money, it is a huge industry. You mistake quantity for profit margin.

 

The only problem with your theory is, the further we go the less funding will be available. You might want to focus on taxpayer revenues, jobs, economic/GDP growth and start trimming the fat if you want to supply everyone including illegals healthcare.

 

The democrats don't think healthcare is wrecked enough so they want to finish it off.

 

The hospital industry has been trying to contain escalating costs since the early 1990s.. adding PPOs, HMOs etc... all of which drive up cost dramatically.

 

Government run healthcare can only contain the rising cost of healthcare by rationing it. Get ready for those death panels.

 

Socialized healthcare is not slavery. Neither is socialized education. Teachers are not slaves and to make that comparison is an insult to the legacy of slavery

 

More like public education

 

I can't believe you have bought in to Sarah Palin's crap about "death panels".