Define woke in a way that does not apply to you or your favored political group.

Yes. And a false smear of conservatives.

I stand for conserving the right to share openly enshrined in our liberal constitution.

 

Bxist
Classical music should be accessible only to those with the talent and interest to persue it. Blaocks should not be allowed to bully their way in.

That wokesters want to destroy classical music see:
https://www.bing.com/search?q=classical+music+white+supremacist&PC=U316&FORM=CHROMN

I have no idea what Marxist cultural theory is. I think you have confused me with someone else.

 

Isn't there a rule against racism in this forum?

 

Nonsense.
If you don't know, at least be honest and say so.

 

They were always there.
They have just been given another name.

 

Wokenessis forced onto people and culture through intimidation whether the majority is for it or not. It is seen as the ONLY ideology and non participants of that ideology is punished and targeted for destruction.

Tolerance of views and diversity of ideas is not part of "woke"

 

And what 'discrimination and inequality' would that be? Can you be specific please.

 

Yet Progressives melt down when things they are intolerant of, are suggested. And they're intolerant of a LOT.

 

It's Progressives who demonise classical music as 'too white', so evidently it's they who believe black people can't enjoy it.

 

Only if you prefer intolerance, inequality and suppression of minorities by physical force.
Woke is being awake to the "other". It is intolerant of intolerance. Of discrimination
Of casual bigotry. Or of the brutally ridiculous assumption that skin color decides what music you can appreciate.
It is the ideals passed into legislation in the 70's concerning racial and gender equality which are today being redacted. It is the awareness of the undermining of what the truth is...is it verifiable fact or is it what someone says it is.
The arc of history is beginning to bend away from justice. And the price of liberty is eternal vigilance.

 

Fake News. The Woke are one of the most bigoted, racist, slanderous, divisives, intolerant and authoritarian forces in American politics. Authoritarianism has no legitimate role in our Liberal Constitutional Democracy.

There is no 'arc of history.' The future is undetermined. Free Will is actual and real.

 

1) What 'suppression of minorties by physical force'? Give examples please.

2) There is no one LESS tolerant than a Western Progressive. They're the worst.

3) How are they being redacted. Give examples please.

 

So why do Progressives think classical music can't be appreciated by non-white people? I guess you're saying Progressives are brutally ridiculous. I have no argument with that, FTR.

 

And a stich in time saves nine.

 

Yep. It was your recommendation that introduced his ideas to me. The one thing that is certain is that he only needs so many haircuts or pairs of slacks and this fact alone supports his argument that a more normally distributed wealth curve is what governments should seek to achieve. Everything else would fall into place if wealth followed a normal Gauss bell curve distribution with the middle holding the majority of the wealth. What was this legislation recently passed that favored the railroads over the unions? All but one D Senator voted in favor of forcing the corporations to provide a lousy 7 paid sick days and only 6 Rs voted in favor of it. Which party is it again that represents the workers? Yet, the Ds moved forward with Federal intervention anyway, so, whose side are they on ultimately? There is no big picture to take care of if the details aren't taken care of first. This is why I assert that the pitchforks are coming for both the Ds and the Rs: because neither of them are going far enough to check the real elites in control: our corporate overlords run be men that for the most part have never built anything from scratch. Internal ladder climbers are all most of these guys bring to the table. Rex Tillerson for example never had to build a company from the ground up. Bezos did, sure, and he's an exception. And this ties into another issue - the cost of having kids. If the Rs gaf about babies, why do they not support kids, pre-k, breakfasts? Sadly, folks with what I consider legitimate beef about these kind of things seem to believe that a c like Trump has their interests at heart. Again for our members here claiming that the Rs support the working man - 6 voted for paid sick leave for plumber Joe working on the railroad. Ugh, sorry, hard to get to a succinct point in the context of this kinda stuff.....

 

Bigotry starts in the genes.

Google Marxist critical theory .

I am dismayed wokesters are so ignorant.

 

That is not what the arc of history means.
You also don't understand what woke is.
So having explained it, I am not prepared to have a "yes it is" and "no it isnt" ping-pong game with you.
Unfortunately you are one who has been fed nonsense and are happy to accept it as confirmation bias.

 

I know what it is.
That is why the context in which it was mentioned was suspect.
So what do you think it means?

And no. Bigotry doesn't start in the genes. That is impossible.
There is no "bigotry" gene.

 

There is no "arc of history'.

I most certainly do. And I can easily define it without reference to any group: "Woke Sucks.

Unintelligible word salad. Just respect the rights of others as you wish yours to be respected, and we'll be fine.

'“The whole Woke Revolution took controlled speech a giant leap forward by compelling speech, as with pronoun protocols that applied heavy penalties for ‘misgendering’ someone. All such agendas also carry a heavy dose of hostility against anyone who might disagree and enlisted social media mobs to enforce that demonization.”'

'Totalitarianism at its root is the same regardless of when or where it manifests, but there is a unique quality to the Woke version.'

https://www.amazon.com/Weaponizatio...olation-Silence/dp/1637582021/wwwviolentkicom

 

https://stellamorabito.net/

Gives you a wider personal explanation of her views.
Tell you what. I'll start referring to you as "she" and let's see how long you take before you object.

If you say there is no arc of history, you have to say there is no history that moves towards freedom, both moral and personal.
Is that what you think?
That we are no more free and equal than during the Middle Ages for example?

 

Now. Perhaps you would like to explain the term "critical theory" .

 

You can get much better at it with practice, and a good way to guage your ability for this is to check if you have people on all ideological sides who disagree with you, and if you see good arguments on multiple sides. The more nuance you see, the more likely you are seeing clearly, I think.

 

That's not what I hear from the "Woke". Woke and Racist actually agree on a lot, including that everything should be viewed through the lens of race, that race is the most important part of a person's identity, that individuals should be treated according to what race they are etc.

The idea seems to be that because historically some rich white men did bad oppressive things, all white men today are privileged and all who are not white men are oppressed. These people see no nuance. They see trailer park kids as more privileged than Obama's kids, just because race. It is in itself bigotry, and it needs to be called out as such. You can recognize historical and existing racism without presuming everything is that and that it is responsible for everything.

My dark skin does not tell you about my income, my family status, or my proclivity for crime or violence. To think it does is pure racism, and pushed by both the woke so-called "anti -racists" and the white supremacists.

 

Basically you agree with what I said meaningless

I am informed about the quite dark narrative they push and the agenda behind it. I'm also aware that in pursuit of that agenda they can find racism in a can of hash if they think their is political fodder to be gained from it.

 

Lie all you want the truth is available to those who want it and are willing to accept it. Sad that you aren't.