This one looks like it might move the ball forward: Judge Lewis is asking the White House for a definition rather than a piece of physical evidence. Every judge, and probably every American, already heard the definition on the other side. If Husseins lawyers respond it will be a big step toward moving from a state court to a federal court; ultimately ending with the SCOTUS ruling definitively one way or the other. Apparently, Minor v. Happersett is unclear: And this: Bush v. Gore judge: Your evidence, Mr. Obama? Schedules hearing on what precedent White House has on 'natural born citizen' Published: 10 hours ago by BOB UNRUH http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/bush-v-gore-judge-your-evidence-mr-obama/ Frankly, I see no reason for Hussein to respond. Why should he? unless he recently discovered a magical argument that makes his definition of natural born citizen a sure winner. Mark June 18 on your calendar.
obama's lawyers will not show, and you birthers will once again lose to an empty chair. lol, birthers.
Ankeny v. Daniels Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are "natural born Citizens" for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents. Birthers had their choice to appeal Ankeny v Daniels but declined to. The last thing Birthers want is for this to go to the Supreme Court and have them actually laugh their two citizen parent idiocy out of the building. I will also note that courts have been referring to Ankeny v. Daniels when slapping down Birthers. Apparently WND has never heard of the decision.
By the way, since the only source is WND and their apparent source is the Birther attorney.....can pretty much count on what WND said the judge said to be what would charitably be called 'biased'. Usually WND version is like a weatherman predicting a hurricane when the actual forecast is mild and breezy.
To SFJEFF: See #5 permalink in this thread: http://www.politicalforum.com/law-justice/245963-public-enemies-1-2-3-so.html
LOL... A person almost has to admire the birthers' ability to believe, every single time, that they're going to win, in the face of such utter and complete fail.
To BullsLawDan: Aside from Judge Lewis: there is this: How long can Supremes avoid eligibility? Newest challenge set for conference in days Published: 12 hours ago by BOB UNRUH http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/how-long-can-supremes-avoid-eligibility/ A person almost has to admire ostriches who think they’ve already won in spite of the challenges that just keep coming.
That is the quote from the Birther attorney Klayman. So far we haven't seen anything except what Klayman says.....so there is a reasonable assumption that this is being viewed through Birther glasses and nothing more. And the other is a quote from WND about another Supreme Court case that will get dismissed- like every single one that has happened before. Birthers lol Getting all of their news from WND!
The following judges have heard cases challenging the presidential eligibility of Barack Obama on the basis of his father’s citizenship. They have said in their decisions that the parents’ citizenship is not a requirement or affirmed a lower court decision to that effect. No judge has said otherwise. Jeff S. Masin – Administrative Law Judge, New Jersey Clarkson S. Fisher – Superior Court Judge, Appeals Division, New Jersey Linda G. Baxter – Superior Court Judge, Appeals Division, New Jersey Philip S. Carchman – Superior Court Judge, Appeals Division, New Jersey John A. Gibney, Jr. – US Federal District Judge, Virginia Elaine B. Brown – Indiana Court of Appeals Terry A. Crone – Indiana Court of Appeals Judge May – Indiana Court of Appeals Michael Malihi – Administrative Law Judge, Georgia Arthur Schack – Superior Court Judge, New York Richard E. Gordon – Superior Court Judge, Arizona
The Original Birther is none other than Hillary Clinton Stick that in your birther rants against birther's!!
Judge Lewis will decide against the birthers, period. I'll take any bet you'd like to place to the contrary. So what? The Supreme Court doesn't need to rule on "eligibility," it is well-settled law that anyone born in the United States is a natural-born citizen. What's there to decide? LOL.... Wow, frivolous challenges "keep coming." Mosquitos keep coming, too, but I'm still going camping this summer. When a challenge is so worthless it doesn't deserve a one-hand brush off, there's nothing to worry about. Tell you what: Make any bet you want to with me regarding this. I will bet you whatever you want that the Supreme Court will never even hear this "issue."
Actually, that's not true. The birther business started on a racist forum, and then was picked up by the "PUMA" Hillary Clinton fans.
Title 8 of the U.S. Code's Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:" - Anyone born inside the United States - Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe - Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S. - Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national - Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year - Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21 - Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time) - A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
To BullsLawDan: Back in the Roaring Twenties a well-known gambler went to a **** fight but never made a bet. When he was asked why not? he replied “Never bet on anything that walks on two feet.”
Birthers- lol Still just repeating Birther lies without checking on them.... There are lies, (*)(*)(*)(*)ed lies, and Birther lies....
Well, I'm willing to. I'll bet any amount that the Supreme Court will never, ever, hear a case regarding Obama's citizenship. They will decline cert every single time. And birthers will whine and cry and stomp their feet.
For legal purposes, regarding individual rights in the US or for being a recognized citizen, the requirements are one thing and should be liberal, IMO. HOWEVER for being the Commander & Chief of the United STATES armed forces and President the INTENDED requirement by those that wrote the Constitution were much more concerned with foreign influence of the person. http://www.worldandi.com/subscribers/feature_detail.asp?num=26823 Those of you, that feel Obama is qualified based on Citizenship, honestly believe his political philosophy is consistent with what YOU feel was that of the founders or even the majority of American's today? Please don't use the 2008 election as an answer, which was arguably a referendum against Bush 43 and use the policy/actions over the past four years, to judge.
Well the answer is that in 2008, the voters did indeed elect Barack Obama and that is how our system works. And in November, the voters have their opportunity once again to decide whether they believe Obama is the better person or whether Mitt Romney is the better person to be President. And that is exactly what I think the Founders of our Country intended.
Let me help define the natural born American citizen. A natural born American citizen is someone who was born in the United States by 2 parents, who were in the prime lineup for god AND his church, as we define it. That means that nobody who is not white and with blond eyes is natural born, let alone an American. Those 2nd class mongrels are in the US only to steal our money and offices, they corrupt our daughters, and clearly they got too big for their breeches the moment they swam across the Rio Grande. So what we need to do is to send them back quickly to India, before their muslim terrorist communist nazi president takes our virginity all away.
Which is why they limited the Presidency to people who were citizens at birth, whereas members of Congress can be former immigrants. All of which still means Obama is eligible. The election is the only means by which we can judge, because that's what put him there. As far as the philosophy of the founders, no major party politician is espousing a philosophy that is consistent with theirs. None of that has any bearing on his Constitutional eligibility, however.
And as predicted- In orders that the US Supreme Court published today, the Court denied a petition for a writ of certiorari in the case of Keyes, Alan, et al. v. Obama, President of the U. S., Et al. The attorney was Gary Kreep and Orly Taitz was involved in an earlier stage of the case. Crash and Burn..... and yet Birthers keep saying 'any day now'......
Pretty soon I expect the courts to start penalizing birthers for filing frivolous lawsuits. I'm also still waiting for the Birther outrage over Romney. More and more it appears that Birthers aren't really interested in citizenship rules -- they just don't like Obama.
Pretty soon??? Orly Taitz has been banned from filing claims in several federal districts, and one of the most prominent graphics on her website is a donation link to help her pay off her frivolous claim fines.
