Defund The Police!!!

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  1. RoanokeIllinois

    RoanokeIllinois Banned Donor

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    Defund The Police!!!

    Owe wait, the Democrat Politicians tried that, and now are pulling back, right before the Midterm Elections.

    Knowing that if they pull back, saying that they were never against defunding the police, and not for Anarchy, that
    they may trick stupid people into voting for them again.

    Well, it's your choice Americans?

    Do you want to feel safe, or continue to Live in Fear, here in America?
     
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    Imnotreallyhere Well-Known Member Donor

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    Just so you know, I don't live in fear of criminals or the cops
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    I don't think the cops should have military grade weapons. That's why we have the National Guard. So to that extent the defund movement has my sympathy. For what it's worth, I'm a Progressive on social issues and Conservative on fiscal ones. Neither party satisfies me.
     
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    RoanokeIllinois Banned Donor

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    Living in fear, and being afraid of, are two different things. Everyone is afraid of certain levels of criminals. Such as, if people know that someone is a murderer, and that person is carrying around a gun, then yes, anyone with logic, and is sane, would be afraid of that person.

    Hopefully, people who don't want cops to have firearms, should go live in the socialist utopia of California, or Chicago. Then watch crime go up, and walk down the streets in a bad neighborhood in the middle of the night. I don't wish harm on anyone, but if people don't want to be protected by cops, then go live in very liberal cities and states, and live in sanctuary cities, with far left wing liberal policies. I just hope those people that do that, don't have kids, because children shouldn't have to be subjected to bums pissing and crapping with nudity in public. Kids shouldn't have to be around massive gang shootings and drugs, and crime.
     
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    Actually 'live in fear is your phrase, not mine.

    Why would I be afraid of a murderer carrying a gun? Assuming I haven't given cause to come after me, he's not likely to shoot me.

    [/quote]Hopefully, people who don't want cops to have firearms, should go live in the socialist utopia of California, or Chicago.[/quote]

    Cops in both places have guns.

    But if they didn't, the murder rat would not necessarily go up. For instance, the UK has about 11.68 murders per million people, while the US has about 42.01. The UK's police don't normally carry firearms.

    Actually St. Louis, MO has the highest violent crime rate of any city in the US with more than 2,000 incidents per 100,000 people (about 3 times the rate in Chicago). Louisiana is the most violent state, with a violent crime rate of 564 per 100,000 people (compare to California, at 466 per 100k).

    Interestingly, Missouri state law allows people to carry loaded hidden firearms and allows domestic abusers to have guns.

    You don't need a permit to own a gun in Louisiana, though you do need one to carry concealed.

    California ranks somewhere between 31st and 34th depending on the source in crime statistics. Not great, but not a dumpster fire either.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I feel safe. The only thing that really scares me are the violent right that want to overthrow our nation to establish a Christian Theocracy.
     
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    Republicans want to defund the FBI and the Federal government
     
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    no one doesn't want cops to have firearms, what we want is good cops that go after the bad guys... even if the bad guys wear a badge

    if a cop sees another cop abusing a citizen, then need to act the same way as if it was another citizen abusing someone.... arrest them, stop the abuse
     
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    RoanokeIllinois Banned Donor

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    democrats, their media, and their politicians make radical policies based on the tiny 1-5 percent in America. Do corrupt cops need to be held accountable? yes. especially the ones that take bribes, and look the other way with human sex trafficking, drugs smuggling, illegal immigrant smuggling, places like Chicago especially. Just like Democrat Politicians and hunter and joe biden should be held accountable.
     
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    Name one that benefits the tiny minority at the expense of the majority.

    What, exactly, are you accusing the Bidens of doing? I've been hearing a lot of garbage about a laptop, but nothing about any crime connected with it. I've heard the Biden campaign asked Twitter to take down nudes of Hunter- which were in violation of their policies- but that's not a crime. It's not even shady.
     
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    Cops are necessary to some extent. Not to the extent we have now where they plant evidence on innocent people and murder innocent people for fun, but they are necessary.

    During Montreal's night of terror, was the culmination of 16 hours of unrest in Montreal, Quebec during a strike by the Montreal police on 7 October 1969

    During the strike, gangs of masked men, armed with guns, began systematically robbing the banks, but most bankers had made certain the day before that there was only a minimal amount of cash on hand and so limited their losses. One branch of the Banque d'Épargne that failed to do so lost $28,845, as three masked men smashed their way in.

    By the end of the day, over $500,000 of goods had been looted from various stores.

    Hey, I thought Canadians were polite and peaceful. While Americans were rude and violent???
     
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