Has the delayed vote count effected your trust in the election process? What & How? Moi Election Interference Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic, regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
Yes and no. Obviously anyone who's studied history knew that the Dem Party's ledership would cheat like hell to make sure that Trump lost. What always surprises me, however, is that the Dem Party almost always openly cheats whenever they do anything as a Party. I think it's because they KNOW that the leftist loyal media outlets will fanatically spin and cover for them no matter what and thus enough people will believe their lies and rationalizations that they never really need to try and conceal what they are doing. Still . . . I admit that the sheer arrogance represented by their very openness about it gives me a queasy feeling.
Considering the amount of mail-in ballots and the different rules in various states, I'm not really surprised at all. My state, PA, wasn't allowed to start counting the mail-in ballots until election day. Republicans and Trump knew more Democrats would vote by mail. So they started undermining the system months ago. Unsurprisingly, more Democrats voted by mail, and the addition of those votes to the tallies after the results of election day, where more Republicans voted in-person, makes it seems like votes are magically appearing. Which of course, they aren't. They're being counted at a different time as the in-person votes. All those months of undermining set up the stage for the election result disputes that are currently happening, ones that the Trump campaign and Trump himself knew would happen. Not because they actually thought there was going to be widespread voter fraud, but because they knew Trump would go down kicking and screaming and make wild accusations and use it as a scapegoat for his loss as that is his standard fare. What happened is simple. Democrats voted for Democrats. Republicans voted for Republicans. But, some of those Republicans voted for Biden even if they voted for Republicans the rest of the way. That's partially what drove Biden's election day numbers. And it's why the Republicans did well in pretty much all the other races at the state and national level. Republican voters decided they could live without Trump, but were still loyal to the Republican party.
After the five minute mark some shocking statements are made about the computer program that was used in many states. FRAUD IN PHILLY | Rudy Giuliani 778,108 views •Nov 9, 2020
Our American history is peppered -- factually -- since at least 1948 with numerous instances of the Democrat Party stealing elections and bending or breaking laws to leverage the outcome. Amuse yourself: https://www.nytimes.com/1977/07/31/...-1948-election-for-johnson-most-involved.html Whether this has actually occurred in 2020 remains yet to be conclusively proven, but it would not surprise me... in the least.... . "I love watching American 'democracy' in action!"
If four Democrats wrote a letter in 2019 concerned that the Dominion Voting System switched peoples' votes, then how do we know that Democrats actually legitimately flipped as many seats in the 2018 mid-terms, or that Joe Biden legitimately won the Democratic Primary contest to become the nominee? https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...minion-voting-machines-prior-to-2020-election
Any election in the middle of a Pandemic is going to end up with delays. The NEFARIOUS attempts by the Republicans to UNDERMINE the INTEGRITY of our elections is what MUST be EXPOSED.
Nope. No election has ever been official on election night. Typically the numbers are sufficiently convincing that the loser concedes and when the final counts are certified, that is proven to have been the correct decision. The concession on election night or very soon afterward is a long held American tradition of the peaceful and smooth hand off of executive power. A practice the rest of the world has long admired, and rightly so. As for the time to finish counting votes in this election all that is required is to ignore political party rhetoric and focus on the reality. The efforts to get out the vote were far greater and more successful than any election in recent memory. The focus on mail-in ballots also much more heavily used than ever before, a process which slows down the counting in some states while speeding it up in others. For example in-person voting is typically done with optical scanning where the voter inserts their ballot into the scanner them-self, and the numbers are instantly in the computer system. Compared to mailed ballots which in some states can be counted starting a couple of weeks before the election but in many others must wait until polls close. In which case the inspection of ballots, verifying of signatures, opening of envelopes and sorting of problem ballots all before feeding them into optical scanners takes much, much longer than in-person voting. Being aware of the details tells me that no, nothing about this election is questionable. Minor problems and conspiracy theory nonsense not withstanding.
Nevertheless, Te, this "Dominion" company has a past that is murky at best. It was disqualified from being used in Texas, as one example, is a foreign-owned company, and has contributed many thousands of dollars to the Clinton's in the past. And, there have been statistical peculiarities in the vote counts in states where the difference between Biden and Trump was less than 1.5% The call now is that election-tally results produced by Dominion systems in different states should be examined, audited, and pronounced 'legit' by BI-PARTISAN examiners before the votes in those states are certified. Do you agree that this is proper and necessary to guarantee that the 2020 election was conducted in a manner free of vote theft and fraud...?
In case you were unware, Cy, this is just the original Diebold organization that OPENLY supported the Republicans that you are now denigrating. I have NEVER trusted them for the simple reason that they do NOT allow access to the CODE used by their machines. On top of that they REFUSED to include a HARDCOPY for AUDIT purposes which just REEKS of them having something to HIDE. Counting votes does NOT require any propriety code and it SHOULD be OPEN to anyone and everyone to AUDIT to ensure that it provides ACCURATE counts. I actually have MORE faith in the Mailed In Ballot counts for the obvious reason that those counts can be CROSS CHECKED against the paper ballots. If it was up to me there would be one standard voting machine that EVERYONE has access to that can be VERIFIED by the voter when they use it. It will provide BOTH an Audit Log and a duplicate RECEIPT to the voters themselves. In fact I will take this one step further. With your ballot you receive a bar code. Change that to one of those codes that your phone can recognize and that then provides you with your ballot on your phone. You make your selections using the app on your phone and that then sends the encrypted choices you made to a central state database. As a voter you will have access to verify that YOUR votes were correctly registered in the database.
We have used mail-in ballots very successfully here in Colorado for over five years without real issues or complaints from either major political party, Te. Personally, I always drive to a drop-in ballot box located on government property, and after some initial doubts, I've gotten as much faith in the process as I had in the old 'vote-in-person' method. I assume that we use Dominion systems here in Colorado, since the company's U. S. base is located in Denver, although it is true that Dominion is a foreign-owned corporation (Canada). That said, it would be important to clear up all these emerging questions and issues about Dominion Voting Systems so that none of us has to be dragging them around like a 'dirty shirt' for the next four years. If the company, its ownership, and its operation throughout all the United States is spotless and reputable, it should be possible for us to be convinced of that quickly....
Cy, I have no problem with investigating to ensure the integrity of their voting systems. FTR there is an ABSURD and now DEBUNKED allegation about "vote swapping" derived entirely upon an ignorant abuse of the data that the NYT was using as a feed from those systems. The lackwit that came up with that bogus allegation is about as CLUELESS as the biggest LOSER*-in-Chief so I would not lose any sleep over that idiotic claim.
I hadn't heard anything about the allegation of "vote swapping" you mentioned, but so far the courts have not yielded any 'victories' to the Trump campaign in its quest for more electoral votes (and fewer, therefore, for Biden). As I observed in some earlier post, the Biden camp appears to winning all the legal 'skirmishes' that usually precede winning the 'war'. For my part, I'm observing a self-imposed restraint on criticizing ol' Joe until AFTER he takes the Oath of Office. I have had definite opinions of Biden which I voiced often here in the Forum before Election Day, but I do want to give him a chance to see what he really DOES once he's got his hands on the 'controls'.... This decision I've made is probably a hell of a lot LESS about being me being 'magnanimous' or anything than it is about being fed-up, nauseated, exhausted, and completely revolted by so much of what this country has turned into ever SINCE "9/11". It's been rumored that before we found him and killed him, Osama bin Laden put a curse on the United States... maybe the curse has power after all.... . "Holy crap! It's working!"
I doubt that you will have long to wait, Cy, since even some of Biden's cabinet picks are going to raise your ire. FTR the curse on our nation BEGAN with Gingrich's Contract ON American Workers back in the 1990's.
Hell, I'm even willing to give Biden's Cabinet members a fair chance to show us what they're really going to do, instead of judging them before they take over their departments. Either you give someone a fair, open, honest CHANCE, or you don't. By contrast, Democrats never even gave Donald Trump a CHANCE -- they launched into full-bore sabotage/attack mode beginning the morning after Hillary lost in 2016. If we on the Right don't give ol' Joe and his people a chance then we're no better than those rabid, back-stabbing, frothing-at-the-mouth Democrats were.... Besides, as I've said, we've GOT to pull together if we're going to make it with our collective American 'sanity' beyond this upcoming winter. Yeah, it's good news about the vaccines and everything, but there's a LOT else wrong with this country that can hurt us just as bad -- or worse -- than a 'virus'....
Obama had one of the cleanest and most law abiding administrations in the history of our nation, Cy. YOUR biggest LOSER*-in-Chief had the probably the MOST corrupt regime of all time. My expectation is that Biden will emulate what Obama did or at least a reasonable facsimile thereof.
I'm going to keep an open mind about Biden, even if I have to use "Jaws of Life" to do it! We all have to have open minds and be truly (TRULY) "fair-and-balanced" now, or we'll fall even deeper into the political civil war that we've come dangerously close to DROWNING in already! That said, I'd rather keep Obama completely OUT of this, but I fear that may not be possible. I know that if I sit here and put together a list of all the things that I truly loathed and despised about Barack Obama and almost every single action or initiative he undertook, all that would do is produce incendiary reactions in his admirers, and our 'trench-warfare' would continue unabated, with no good result. Right now, especially, we must (MUST) put all that sh!t behind us, Te... at least until half of 2021 is over with. Biden has said he will be the most "progressive" president in U. S. history. I most sincerely hope not! I look back to about the year 1900 at "progressive" presidents and THOSE were exactly the ones who injected the most parasitism and uselessness into the population, and now we'll never be rid of the worse effects of them -- unearned government 'social programs', and a smothering central bank (the "Fed") that has seized control over the entire economy of the United States while it completely hijacked the Dept. of the Treasury.... Joe Biden had better understand that he must think and ACT outside the 'progressive' box if he truly intends to do anything of real benefit for this country, or I can PROMISE you, Te, that within the next twenty years (at most), CHINA, in an alliance with RUSSIA will be telling all of us in the United States "how it's going to be"! . "Yes, I agree, Joe -- 'Obama 2.0' will be the perfect fit for you!"
As this ballot count drags on, I am more distrustful this was an honest election. Computers programmed to assign votes contrary to a voter's intention. Batches of misplaced ballots found. And so it goes. I don't blame Biden. I blame the Democratic Party machine. Moi has plans
Of course, any time a ballot is out of the hand of the voter and in the hands of partisan election workers or "lost" ie being created, I get afraid and the longer it is the more afraid.
