Delta Air Lines CEO ditches ‘divisive’ COVID vaccine mandate; marks 90% employee vaccination rate

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  1. FreshAir

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    government contracts can be canceled if they do not comply, so an addl cost to consider for many corps
     
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    Never comfortable with the "IF"!
     
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    That's unproven.

    More have died AFTER mandates for masks and vaccinations than before.

    Is there any indication that it would have been worse without? It's all pure speculation presented as facts.
     
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    Not fake news at all as that is a completely separate issue, everything I said about abortion is 100 percent accurate and relevant. You went off into unrelated tangents.
     
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    Masks can lower the immune system which was a concern of doctors until voicing that concern could lead to termination and loss of license.
     
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    Did we ever reach anywhere near that sort of mask participation in America? Cant really say they don't work when we didn't fully commit as a nation. Even in heavily mandate areas there was still heavy resistance and disobedience.
     
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    Contracts may or may not be cancelled due to legal details of the contract, but all travel orders may require all govt workers to use airlines that adhere to their requirements and hence avoid Delta.
     
  8. FreshAir

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    no, that is a real born baby, as you said... an abortion is just a clump of cells that may one day become a baby

    the other is forcing a woman to risk her own life and limbs to have her rapists baby
     
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  9. Steve N

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    Here's an interesting question for you; while I don't think a woman should have the baby of a rapist, but since she does, should the rapist have to pay 18 years of child support (including making up for the years he was in prison) and lose privileges if he doesn't, privileges like not getting a driver's license or car registration renewed?
     
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    a rapist should get lwop

    but that is part of the problem in forcing rape victims to have their rapists baby, the father is linked to the family at that point
     
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  11. Moolk

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    An abortion is a baby. We are all clumps of cells lol that’s another dumb argument. It’s stopping murder
     
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    nope, not murder, just a miscarriage (also an abortion), only a medically induced one

    if any of the women die that are forced to give birth to their rapists baby... that is state sponsored murder
     
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  13. Moolk

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    False it’s murder and it isn’t justified just because someone was raped. We are all bundles of cells.
     
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    not murder, it's a choice to bring a child into this world, the potential mothers choice, not yours, mine or the Government's to make for us
     
  15. Moolk

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    It is murder, the vast majority of abortions are murder because people are lazy.

    Its the govts job to stop murder.
     
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    In Australia our government proposed 80% double vaxxed to open up and end mandates, my state promptly released modelling showing opening up at 95% double vaxxed still presents "unacceptable risks".

    I do not believe I will see the end of this in my lifetime.
     
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    The world should wise up and realize there is a need for a unified lockdown protocol because we were just flat out lucky and blessed that this virus didn't have a higher kill rate. The next one could be, and probably will be, much much worse. But humans just aren't that intelligent.
     
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    In the case of a virus that has a much higher kill rate, I doubt there will be any push back for it and alot more willingness to do so.

    However, even before the vaxx the kill rate is stupid low for the vast majority of people.

    Now with a vaxx it makes no sense to continue.

    Being willing to just lockdown at this point is beyond stupid.
     
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    yes, a woman that dies from being forced to give birth to her rapists baby is murder, state-sponsored murder
     
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    He didn't. You made dumb counter examples.

    Nobody has ever said you can get rid of all risks.

    But COVID-19 has an easy way of not only protecting you but also helping to prevent the need of hospital services.

    You can't take a vaccine to ward off car accidents. And lets face it, people have other places they need to go besides work. How about grocery shopping, trips to the doctor, trips to kid's schools, trips for shopping, etc etc. Even cutting out entertainment, there's still an awful lot of necessitated travel. This was a dud.

    There's no vaccine for obesity. Yes, folks could eat better and exercise undoubtedly. Of your two suggestions, this one is at least slightly more rational. Losing weight and being healthier would also help alleviate one of the things that can lead to complications from COVID. But there is no short term realistic solution to this problem. It's a societal problem, because it's causes aren't just personal. Like I said, there's no vaccine. If there was something you could do that took the same time as getting two COVID shots does, you might have a better contrast here. But you're reaching.

    And besides, if you don't even think vaccines should be mandated, your suggestions would require even more heavy handedness.
     
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    Why would we have a lockdown in Perth, Western Australia when we have zero cases within 3500km of us?

    What are you proposing? Surely not the world adopting a one-size fits all lockdown policy. That's a damn good way to ensure revolution across the world.
     
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    Great argument for requiring vaccinations before flying.... I'm onboard with that (so to speak)

    Also, how do you KNOW the people sitting next to you weren't?? Did they tell you???

    Finally, since the "Biden mandate" isn't even a real thing yet, don't you think his threat of a mandate caused some of the unwilling to get these Delta numbers up to a certain point??

    Let's Go, Joe!
     
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    False, that is a significantly rare issue while abortion is actual murder
     
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    He made a stupid argument and my counter examples used his logic to demonstrate how stupid the argument was. This is objectively true despite how much you may wish to disagree. You can disagree, but you are wrong.

    there is a solution to obesity, the vaxx to obesity is working out and eating better. Again, it makes perfect sense despite your inability to recognize it. It’s not reaching at all. Fat people take up far more resources both at a hospital and in other areas as well, mandating them to work out and eat better is the same logic as mandating a vaxx to stop the nonvaxxed from taking up more resources than vaxxed.

    Again, you are free to be wrong and disagree but the logic is the exact same.
     
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