Delta Variant is definitely more DANGEROUS/THREATENING/DEADLY than Original Covid

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  1. nopartisanbull

    nopartisanbull Well-Known Member

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    In several forums, many Republicans have concluded that the Delta Variant is LESS deadly than Original Covid, however, they've been comparing Apples and Oranges.

    Apple to Apple comparison, thus, ''excluding vaccinations'', the Delta Variant is definitely more DANGEROUS, THREATENING, and DEADLY than Original Covid.

    First, a national update of Delta Variant VERSUS Original Covid;

    Delta Variant, August 27, 2021

    Daily Cases 7 Day Rolling Average; 155,905
    Daily Deaths 7-Day Rolling Average; 1,033
    Current Hospitalizations; 95,064

    Original Covid, Nov 15, 2020

    Daily Cases 7-Day Rolling Average; 155,628
    Daily Deaths 7-Day Rolling Average; 1,295
    Current Hospitalizations; 67,450

    https://carlsonschool.umn.edu/mili-misrc-covid19-tracking-project
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

    Thus, at nearly the same Daily Cases 7-Day Rolling Averages, Original Covid stats clearly show LESS covid affected people were hospitalized, and more covid affected people were dying.

    Now, compared to Original Covid, here are the main factors, and/or a correlation of several factors that significantly lowered Delta's CFR;

    1. In the U.S., and among several Southern States, the Delta Surge began late June/early July

    2. Over 80% of Seniors have one or several comorbidities.

    3. Prior to the Delta Surge, over 95% of people who died of Covid were older than 64 years old.

    4. Nearly all Covid Hospitalizations/Deaths are now among unvaccinated.

    5. Prior to the Delta Surge, and NATIONALLY, nearly 80% of SENIORS were fully vaccinated.

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    Chrizton Well-Known Member

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    MSNBC reported at the end of July there were over 125K break through cases with at least 1400 deaths in the 38 states they could get data for.
     
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    Daily cases - nearly identical. Deaths - similar and meaningless since you chose different dates. Hospitalizations - We do better triage than we did a year ago and more natural immunity. The only meaningful difference is that delta is vaccine resistant so vaccinated people are also suffering infection. However we have a lot of natural immunity compared to last year so the effects on the public are lessened. The danger of covid - like influenza - lies with aged people with other health issues. We are living with covid as we live with the flu. I see nothing valuable in your analysis.
     
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    the hospitals are filling with mostly unvaccinated folks, disproving your statement
     
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    Yes most hospitalized infectees are un-vaccinated. The reason is that the vaccines, while not effective at preventing infection of the delta strain apparently do reduce the severity of the infections. An infection is something like a war between the reproduction of virus and the production of antibodies. Vaccinated people give the production of anti bodies a lift that non immune people don't have. The vaccines are obsolescent in terms of preventing infection but do appear to have some therapeutic benefit after infection. Sorry I didn't write enough to clear up your criticism. I should have learned enough by now to expect these nonsensical criticisms. I am a fan of the vaccines. I recommend them. I take them myself. I am not a fan of misinformation.
     
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    that is what vaccines do, they train your body to fight the virus if\when you do get it

    apparently some people though getting the vaccine would prevent them from ever getting the virus and having to fight it off when they did
     
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    Fear mongering doesn't work when the credibility of these claims are at zero.
     

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