Dem Gov Cuomo: It's "The Plain Truth" That President Trump Has "Delivered"

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  1. Natty Bumpo

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    Trump lied when he repeatedly promised to release his taxes.

    Some mindlessly worship Trump. Some pat him on the head or explain where he is wrong as the occasion demands.
     
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    Poo poo??

    The country did nothing to prepare. For months leadership watched as China was struggling and just assumed it wouldn’t happen here. Am I to be pleased that we are reactive instead of proactive?

    For god sakes it’s the American way. Don’t plan just firefight. It's the American way of business. Don't assess risk, don't create mitigation plans, don't even think about the failure modes. Just pray and react.

    That's terrible leadership.
     
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    Guess you forgot the prior 8 yrs? Obama got a Nobel for doing nothing. :). Think about that.
     
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    By getting everything he wanted by being a better TV personality than Trump.
     
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    If you approve of Trump's lying to the American public regarding his taxes or in any other matters, that is your right, of course.
     
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    No, I do not approve. I just do not care.
     
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    Funny to see the typical anti-American anti-Trumpers not budging. No surprise, anyone without die hard partisan thoughts would have already seen the great job Trump has done.
     
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    Only if you will diss him for not doing it .

    Otherwise looks like a shallow yapping ankle biter.
     
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    No, we just want to expose the lies that he isn't.
     
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    Incorrect, he was leading since January, while WHO was still misleading the country and democrats claimed he had knee jerk reactions. His leadership there saved many lives by buying us much needed time. All while democrats were to busy calling him a racist for doing it, and impeaching him...then weeks later telling people to get together in large crowds in china town lol.

    Trumps ratings are massive, because his information is correct and his leadership is fantastic.

    Even democrats are congratulating him now on such a job well done so far.

    Great job President Trump!
     
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    I don't get what praising Trump has to do with wanting to look into his taxes. Cuomo can and should do both.
     
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    Hurry up and do it before Trump is re-elected :D
     
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    Trumps an idiot. He spread out members of the original pandemic response team into USC departments that had nothing to do with pandemics or viruses.

    Tim Morrison who wrote an article defending Trump had no idea of what the pandemic team was used for He was nothing more than a political appointee (hack) selected to back up the President at any cost.

    https://www.justsecurity.org/69197/...fense-of-streamlining-away-our-bio-readiness/
    "Bolton’s organizational choices meant the NSC didn’t have a cohesive team able to elevate pandemic readiness expertise directly to senior leaders. Instead, the NSC had director-level subject-matter experts scattered around with limited influence and little ability to reach decision-makers. These people were highly capable and impressive, but their influence was diluted by the new structure."

    Furthermore the original pandemic response team hadn’t met in a year and a half because it didn’t have a director, U.S Senators of both Parties demanded to know why there was no director.

    https://globalbiodefense.com/2020/0...diately-fill-global-health-security-position/

    "Schatz and the senators urged immediate action because the top global public health position at the NSC has remained vacant for almost two years. The senators also cited the more than 44,000 people in more than 20 countries who have contracted the novel coronavirus, which has killed more than 1,100 people. In May 2018, some of us wrote to then-National Security Advisor John Bolton regarding our concerns about this vacancy, noting “[t]he threat of a pandemic is serious, and it’s important families know we have a vigilant and experienced team in place and working to protect us against such public health threats.” We asked a series of questions about how the NSC would handle global health security threats. But we received no answers to our questions.
    in May 2018, “the head of global health security on the White House’s National Security Council left the Trump Administration.” Almost two years later, this position on the National Security Council (NSC) remains vacant. We urge immediate action, as well as your response to questions regarding the NSC’s readiness"

    Trump's a moron.
     
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    He is doing a great job, far better than democrats would have seeing as he took actions far before democrats even began taking it seriously. He has saved many lives with those actions as well by buying us much needed time. Democrats are more interested in politicizing this while he is looking for options for us to take to help people, evidenced by the hydroxychloroquine.

    Great Job President Trump!
     
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    Afraid to respond to my very cogent post.
    Same repetitive nonsense over and over. As if repeating the same B.S. again and again somehow makes it the truth
     
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    I repeat it because its true. There is nothing in your post that refutes that. You have your take on it, but you have yet to refute anything I have said effectively.

    Trump DID buy us a lot of time due to his travel ban, or restriction...w/e you wanna call it, according to Dr. Fauci.

    By buying us much neeeded time it’s OBVIOUS that saved many people.

    Trump DID promote Hydroxycholorquine that democrats critisized him and and it HAS been beneficial, proving him RIGHT.

    Democrats DID downplay the virus WEEKS after Trump conducted his travel ban saving peoples lives.

    These are all facts.
     
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    Absolutely.... when credit is due, he will get credit...

    Great job on that First Step Act in 2018!!

    P.S. Don't forget Cuomo has still offered up Trump's NY State Taxes to Congress... Be sure and remind Trump of that when you see him...
     
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    . Lol so now you're saying it's true because you say it's true but no real evidence You're just spinning in the same circle over and over again. You're dizzy.

    ON post 64 I not only refuted it I solidly crushed your empty post that said "the president is doing a good job." And How would you know you don't even have the guts to come up with a point by point refutation of my post on 64.. You show no examples and no evidence to prove your thesis just the same thing over and over. You're dizzy

    There's no solid evidence that the travel ban helped us, thousands of people were in our country from all over the world many had the virus without showing symptons. And he lost a couple of months because he dispanded the pandemic team by then

    Please name the studies that prove him right about Choloroquine. Nonsense without evidence.

    Do you have a non biased source that proves that? The answer is no. So
    they're not facts just because you say they are. And Trump lost us a couple of months by not even having a director for his bio defense team for 2 years.

    Also you're afraid to give a point by point refutation of my last post. Take another swing at it or hide. Your choice

    , U.S Senators of both Parties demanded to know why there was no director.

    https://globalbiodefense.com/2020/02/19/senators-call-on-trump-administration-to-immediately-fill-global-health-security-position/
    Schatz and the senators urged immediate action because the top global public health position at the NSC has remained vacant for almost two years. The senators also cited the more than 44,000 people in more than 20 countries who have contracted the novel coronavirus, which has killed more than 1,100 people. In May 2018, some of us wrote to then-National Security Advisor John Bolton regarding our concerns about this vacancy, noting “[t]he threat of a pandemic is serious, and it’s important families know we have a vigilant and experienced team in place and working to protect us against such public health threats.” We asked a series of questions about how the NSC would handle global health security threats. But we received no answers to our questions.
    in May 2018, “the head of global health security on the White House’s National Security Council left the Trump Administration.” Almost two years later, this position on the National Security Council (NSC) remains vacant. We urge immediate action, as well as your response to questions regarding the NSC’s readines

    https://www.justsecurity.org/69197/...fense-of-streamlining-away-our-bio-readiness/
    "Bolton’s organizational choices meant the NSC didn’t have a cohesive team able to elevate pandemic readiness expertise directly to senior leaders. Instead, the NSC had director-level subject-matter experts scattered around with limited influence and little ability to reach decision-makers. These people were highly capable and impressive, but their influence was diluted by the new structure."

    Furthermore the original pandemic response team hadn’t met in a year and a half because it didn’t have a director, U.S Senators of both Parties demanded to know why there was no director
     
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    Everything I have said is independently verifiable and has been shown here many times over despite your refusal to acknowledge it.

    Are you pretending that Trump didnt give a travel ban that Dr. Fauci claimed bought us much time? He did. And therefore that saved many lives.

    Are you going to pretend democrats didnt downplay this weeks after Trump took that action? They did, thats why pelosi was encouraging people to get together in large groups in china town lol.

    Are you pretending Trump didnt give praise to hydroxhychloroquine? He did, and that medicine is now used by doctors everywhere, and even approved by the FDA due to how effective its being.

    Which part of this are you refuting lol. You are giving your own spin and opinion and spin, but you haven’t disproved this at all. This all objectively happened lol.
     
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    • Insulting or personally attacking other posters (Rule 2/3)
    Why because you say it is. Once again a complete B.S statement without a shred of evidence.

    Where did I say or imply that there was no travel band. What a cheap low blow I never said such a thing but I did show why it wasn't effective and there is no evidence to proov that it was. <Rule 2/3>

    No evidence no evidence pure B.S. You got this from some right wing propaganda report.

    Yes it's approved but your B.S crap statement doesn't show a single statement from any US drug agency that it is officially approved for the Coronavirus. <Rule 2/3>


    On post 64 I crushed all of your nonsense about how Trump is doing a good job and I've smashed your statements here as well. <Rule 2/3>
     
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    WRONG, ‘it’s been sourced on these forums constantly, you have seen it. It’s all true, objective fact.

    The evidence and proof that it was is in Dr. Fauci claiming it absolutely bought us time. He is an expert on the matter. If it bought us time, then it absolutely saved lives.

    It’s approved, because of how useful it is lol. How could you possibly think they would approve it for use against the china virus if it wasn’t at all useful? Lol.

    You only think you squashed it, but at no point did you ever actually do that. You give your own take, your own spin sure, one that is different than Dr.Fauci’s. Lol.
     
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    Wrong. its no just my own spin there are other qualified virus specialists who agree with me. Another dumb statement.
    There is no proof that the Travel restrictions had any effect. Also Trump lost a couple months by disbanding the Pandemic response team and letting it go for 2 years without a director and this moron has never indicated that he knew what its purpose was. . Also consider your dumb dumb statement that Chloroquine is approved in the United States for use against the coronavirus. There is no definitive study from China that shows it works. i, There is no definitive medical study that shows it effectiveness anywhere. And you offer no proof . Tumps an idiot for talking it up. What a Butthole. This dangerous moron is not qualified to talk about anything that has to do with diseases or medicine.
    Also there is no definitive study that showed the Travel Ban was of any use
    but once again you have failed to prove it. You have no studies no statistics nothing. Also there is more than one qualified medical opinion on the travel ban topic.
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    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/the-facts-on-trumps-travel-restrictions/

    Nuzzo, the senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, said there’s no evidence, at least, that the travel restrictions have saved lives or reduced the number of cases in the U.S.

    “We have not seen any evidence that shows the travel restrictions stopped or slowed down transmission of the virus that causes COVID-19,” Nuzzo told us via email. “It is possible that it did, but there is no evidence to show this. Rather there are a number of reasons to believe that this may very well not be the case.”

    Chiefly, she said, that’s because “we weren’t seriously looking for cases in the US.”

    “If you had mild infection, you were not tested,” Nuzzo said. “If you had viral pneumonia not requiring oxygen but had not been to Wuhan, you wouldn’t have been tested.”

    “Prior to the US travel restrictions, China began suspending outbound flights,” Nuzzo said. “Airlines also began canceling flights due to low travel volume. Then, the US implemented travel restrictions, which further reduced travel from China. The exception was Americans who were returning home from China. These folks were subject to quarantine upon return. A number of cases were found among these individuals. If you only test travelers from China and you greatly reduce the number of travelers coming from China, then you would be likely to not find many cases.

    But it doesn’t mean the virus hadn’t entered the US prior to travel restrictions,” Nuzzo said, as data now suggests occurred in Washington state.

    Also, she said other countries, including Japan, Singapore and Korea, had a significant number of coronavirus cases, but they weren’t subject to travel restrictions. The U.S. “would likely not have picked it up” if travelers coming to the U.S. from those countries “because we weren’t using these other countries as criteria for testing.”

    A modeling study published in Science magazine on March 6, “The effect of travel restrictions on the spread of the 2019 novel coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak,” concluded that, “In areas affected by the 2019 novel coronavirus (COVID-19), travel restrictions will only modestly impact the spread of the outbreak,” according to a press release for the study.

    “Based on the study’s results, the authors say the greatest benefit to mitigating the epidemic will come from public health interventions and behavioral changes that achieve a considerable reduction in the disease transmissibility – factors like early detection, isolation, and handwashing,” according to the press release.

    The authors concluded that travel restrictions introduced by the Chinese government in Wuhan in Jan. 23 and the halting of airline flights to and from China starting in early February at first slowed the spread of the disease to the rest of the world. Even still, a large number of individuals exposed to the virus had been traveling internationally without being detected and, the authors note, the number of imported cases around the world went up in a matter of weeks.

    “Moving forward we expect that travel restrictions to COVID-19 affected areas will have modest effects, and that transmission-reduction interventions will provide the greatest benefit to mitigate the epidemic,” the authors wrote.
     
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    So he is doing his job.

    Close enough! :D
     
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    WRONG. Dr. Fauci has stated it bought us much needed time, he is the authority not he subject. You can post a wall of text with whoever you want as your source this does not at all refute what I’ve said. Dr. Fauci disagrees, and he is completely right.

    It bought much need time, and therefore saved lives.

    Save lives, democrats criticize! Lol
     
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