Democracy is bleeding out

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    "Democracy is bleeding out, and for at least a year, it has been obvious that it is too late to save it. But seemingly every columnist and pundit from MSNBC to Fox to the major papers and even higher-brow magazines is committed to pretending otherwise.

    Like the people I am critiquing here, I spend a lot of time writing about American elections, political strategies, and so on. I do not, however, have any personal or professional reasons to pretend that elections are fairly democratic when they are not. I will most likely continue to write post-mortems for American democracy for many years to come, because there is a lot to say about a country that has fallen into an authoritarian, post-democratic dystopia.


    But even if that could have happened, why is that a problem? In the high school civics version of this, a party that -- no matter its selection process -- nominates a weirdo will lose in the general election when voters abandon that party. That that is not happening anymore is not because of nomination rules but because Republican voters will vote for their nominee no matter what. And weirdos like that will win general elections in many more places than they otherwise would, because of voter suppression and gerrymandering.


    And so it will be here, with Republicans finding it useful to tantalize us with the idea that future elections might go either way, to keep everyone interested and invested in the system. But it will be a sham, because once they have seized power, Republicans will not relinquish it."
    http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2022/05/the-electoral-industrial-complex-and.html

    You never know, but this is what I think is our fate, followed by an across the board decline of the country.
     
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    Massive fail everybody gerrymanders Democrats Republicans and federal courts and on the whole courts have created far more bizarre and far more troubling gerrymanders than have either party.

    Georgia's much maligned election laws have rather than suppressing the resulted in record turnouts across all demographic groups. This far this record turnout has gone 3 to 2 for Republican. The fact democracy isn't producing the results you desire does not imply that it isn't working. It just means your going to have to find a campaign narrative beyond screaming that's racist at the top of your lungs because that's not working anymore.
     
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    Democracy is bleeding out

    That has been true for 50 years. Just look at the people the voting public has put in office. Disgraceful.
     
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