Democrat Doug Jones puts out a hard-hitting ad against sexual predator Roy Moore

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    He quotes three prominent REPUBLICANS, two of whom are deep within the Trump circle.

    Not quite seen anything like this in Alabama's recent electoral history....

    ...the point being that these sexual allegations are not going away. In fact, the stories and the anecdotal evidence from just tons of people from Moore's hometown are making things worse for the sexual predator. And on top of that, let's not forget that Gloria Allred is a very, very experienced attorney and she practically set a deadline of 2 weeks for the HOR to investigate Moore, saying that if they do not, she would go to plan B. If I were Moore, I would be wondering long and hard exactly what her plan B is, because Allred has a history of devastating last minute surprises.

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    If I were Satan I'd put Allred in the place of hell reserved for sexual assaulters as an ironic punishment for a life of selfish virtue signalling, shameless self-promotion, and the exploitation of people for personal financial gain and fame.

    Moore should get off the ticket. If I were in Alabama I would vote for a write-in candidate. Clearly there are a lot of people who think that this is a propaganda piece from WaPo, based on Moore's increased support from evangelicals after the exposé. I think that if any on the left were actually serious about fixing the situation they'd appeal to these people's actual views instead of an easy to knock down "you want to fiddle kids" strawman.

    This whole saga of sexual assault revelations has taught me one thing: there is no end to hypocrisy, neither in degree nor its source. It is found everywhere and people will go to incredible lengths before admitting it.
     
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    RCP currently has them in a statistical tie but what is more interesting is the trend line.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...ate_special_election_moore_vs_jones-6271.html

    This close to an election having a negative trend line is dangerous territory to be in. I have no doubt whatsoever that the entire BLOTUS white supremacist nazi base will be out in force voting for Moore on 12/12 but if the swing towards the Dems that has been showing up in every other race is also active in AL then this race is way too close to call.

    That it should even be tied like this in a deep red state like AL is not an encouraging sign for the GOP as a whole either.
     
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    If I understood you correctly, I think you are trying to say that Gloria Allred is ruthless. Well, she is. Pretty much every top-powered attorney is. Newsflash: the sun is hot!

    Moore cannot get off the ticket. It's too late. Alabama law doesn't really allow it. Even if he were to suddenly die, his name stays on the ballot and those votes would be counted for him. Now, I am not so sure what you mean by the Left, but the Left did not cause Roy Moore to go hit on underage girls in his 30s, so much so that he was actually forbidden from visiting the mall in his own hometown. The Left had absolutely nothing to do with that.

    What the WAPO did is what hard-hitting journalism is supposed to do: to folllow a lead, back it up with many, independent from each other, verified sources, including testimony, and put forth a story. As for Evangelicals, Roy Moore already had them him in his pocket to begin with. But apparently, he is losing some of them, which is why this is at best a tied-race in an R+25 to R+30 state.

    That being said, I do agree with you that the Left should carry it's arguments to Evangelicals, who are in no way monolithic. Obama won 25% of the Evangelical vote in 2008 and 2012, the majority of them black evangelicals.

    I enjoyed reading your posting.
     
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    Alabama is a state where the Republican should be so far ahead that the Democratic nominee is hapless and lacking in funds and kind of just letting the clock run out until he gives his concession speech. This time around, through pure stupidity (read that as: Trumpism), the Republican party is just about to hand a rock-solid red seat over to team blue.

    Long before the accusations of now 6 or 7 women accusing him of inappropriate sexual behavior (only G-d knows how many more are out there) came to light, Roy Moore was already a seriously flawed candidate, one who will go down in history as the only senatorial candidate who was a former state supreme court judge who was removed TWICE from the bench. He hates black people, called the Civil Rights acts of 1964-1965 "special rights", he hates gay people, he is in no way friendly to the Jews. Moore is an ugly, ****ed-up white supremacist masquerading as a Christian.

    I once felt sorry for his wife, Kayla. But I don't anymore. Surely she is smarter than this. But her lust for power is also larger than her willingness to see what her own husband is: a sexual predator. Good Lord, he was even dating HER when she was underage and no one is even batting an eyelash.

    It's gonna take 300 years to bring Alabama into the 21st century, I fear...
     
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    Of course, the raging Anti-Semites will dismiss Ivanka as a "Jew".
     
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    Naturally.

    I, as a Jew, am ashamed of and for Ivanka Trump. But even a broken clock is right 2 times a day.
     
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    First, Ivanka Trump is no Jew - she converted (like her mother I believe). Jews are born from jewish mothers. That's not "my" rule, BTW, but the Jewish orthodox themselves', for whom being a jew is a blood matter, not a faith one.

    Then - why would one be ashamed for Ivanka Trump? Yes, it's nepotism but it's also, one can feel, the only thing that's sane in the WH these days. She is the "good cop" to her father's "bad cop", and may in practice govern much more than we know. Ivanka Trump is the ray of sunshine in DJT's regressive America.

    She is a modern days queen Esther. ;-)
     
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    "An insincere charlatan... attempting to hoodwink the voters [who] should be rejected for what he is and what he stands for.”

    History often repeats itself - and sometimes does a mocking parody of itself.

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    Not surprisingly, the "insincere charlatan" who "attempt[ed] to hoodwink the voters" enthusiastically endorsed the Trump.
     
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    The last thing Democrat Jones wants to do is discuss any actual issues related to government. The ads may well backfire on Jones who should have let the MSM do his dirty work. That he is running such ads suggests his polling shows that he is losing so is an act of desperation.
     
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    The hyper-partisan nonsense aside, Trump did not yet fully endorse the molester.

    The p-grabber is being cast as supporting the sexual predator by the Moore/Trump faction.

     
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    It seems the political parties are due for another renaming. Seems they're the Conservative and the Liberal parties now. Might as well pull the trigger and make it so.
     
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    Ashamed of her because she doesn't follow your party line? Why isn't she allowed to speak for herself?


    Oh, and Ivanka is most definitely a liberal and not a Republican. She's in the administration for her dad, not because of her political leanings. She said that several times during the election.


    And to comment on the topic, I couldn't care less if Moore wins or loses. I don't like the man or his politics, but if he's proven right and the yearbook is a forgery, he's vindicated on all 'charges'. I think that the yearbook should be tested and results fast tracked back before the election takes place. Anyone that says there isn't enough time is hiding something.
     
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    Doesn't matter how he is being "cast." He has not endorsed Moore. That is a lie CNN and MSNBC were chatting this morning.
     
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    It's always fun to watch Trump push one of his lies and/or attempt to prop up a feeble position.

    He inevitable becomes flustered, his mouth puckers up like a blowfish, and he keeps repeating himself like a senile parrot.

    Curiously, his capitulation to the Alabama molester sounds very much like his kowtowing to the Rooskie KGB thug.

    "He said he didn't meddle. He said he didn't meddle!" Trump told reporters from Air Force One. "I asked him again. You can only ask so many times. I just asked him again. He said he absolutely did not meddle in our election! He did not do what they are saying he did!"

    Trump added that Putin is “very insulted” by accusations that he interfered in the 2016 race.

    We don't want to insult Moore by rejecting his lame denials, do we?

     
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    Most media outlets characterize Trump's half-assed, mealy-mouthed support for the molester as "all but endorsing."

    Typical is the Washington Times: "After staying silent for more than a week, Trump all but endorsed Moore as he departed Washington on Tuesday."
     
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    Doug Moore is gun-grabbing, fetus ripping Democrat. He will not support or defend the Constitution if elected.
     
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    Gloria Allred is a political operative for the DNC.

    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/20593

     
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    Yes, most of the MSM propaganda outlets of the super rich lie. Not endorsing the Democrat does not constitute endorsing Moore.
     
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    Trump's contorted apologetics for the predator are certainly unique.

    "There's a special place in hell for people who prey on children … I have no reason to doubt these victims' accounts." Ivanka "The Smart One" Trump, Presidential Advisor

    "I have no reason to doubt these young women." Former Alabama US Senator and Trump AG Jeff "Little Beauregard" Sessions

    "Conservative voices — putting children and women over party. Doing what's right." Current Alabama US Senator Richard "Yam In the mouth" Shelby who said he would "absolutely not" vote for Moore.

    “[Moore] denies it! Look, he denies it... he totally denies it! He says it didn’t happen … he said 40 years ago this did not happen!" Donald "I have th best words" Trump

    The neo-nazi Daily Stormer that proclaimed Trump their "Glorious Leader" has their pro-Moore perspective as well, of course:

     
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    Actually, he is doing that all the time. But your hyperpartisan blinders are keeping you from seeing this.
    Do desperation much?
     
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    The theory is that you were born a Jew all along. This is why the 'convert's' former status is usually not mentioned. I always found that charming rather than exclusionary.

    The Jews have proselytized, most famously they were said to have converted the Khazars, though that theory is regarded skeptically today
     
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