Democrat voters.

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  1. Observing

    Observing Well-Known Member

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    Then win local elections and change the borders. The republicans did. If the gerrymandering was illegally done as it was in PA the courts will redistrict. No the dems picked hillary She won by over three million votes. The republicans did not control the senate by gerrymandering but by running candidates that appealed to voters in those states. The republicans identified state legislatures that they could control and spent the money to elect these reps. Why didn't we dems? Don't blame the republicans for us not performing.
     
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    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

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    Why couldn't Biden beat Hillary for the nomination? Ben Shapiro says, and I agree, that Biden would have beaten Trump, and that he will beat Trump in 2020 if nominated.
     
  3. Papastox

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    Here is a quiz about declared and potential Democrat candidates for president:

    1. Who waited until he was 40 to get a job and collect a paycheck?

    2. Who took his mother to see the porn film "Deep Throat". She was mortified.

    3. Whose alter ego is Spartacus?

    4. Who based her promotions on being Native American?

    5. Who said she listened to Snoop Dogg and Tupac in college while smoking weed? Only problem
    Is she graduated before they were famous...

    6. Who has come out strongly against circumcision in his campaign?

    7. Who has the moniker "Creepy Uncle Joe" because of his lingering hands on women?

    8. Who eats dirt and once served his wife green poop in a bowl and called it avocado?

    9. Who has eaten salad with a hair comb?

    How did the Democrats get so many weirdos who want to run our country?






    Answers

    1. Bernie Sanders
    2. John Hickenlooper
    3. Corey Booker
    4. Elizabeth Warren
    5. Kamala Harris
    6. Andrew Yang
    7. Joe Biden
    8. Beto
    9. Amy Klobuchar
     
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    I know! That was the first thing I thought of when I saw that. If he's nominated, wonder what Trump's nickname for him will be....

    I think you are dreaming.

    I've noticed that Dems usually go for candidates that are attractive and ignore what they are saying or their history.

    I did think Biden was the only one who had a chance of winning, but I am seeing that he must flip so far left to get the nomination that I think even he won't stand a chance in the national election. We are so divided that Dems aren't going to get any Rep voters, nor is Trump going to get any Dems. But with the extremist ideology on the Dem side, many Dems, older and/or moderate, will stay home on election night. Also, if the MSM tells voters it's already in the bag, like they did last time. Which is as good as a vote for Trump! The media was not Hilary's friend.
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    This is your future..

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    Enjoy. I'll be leaving should this come to pass.
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    That's the line at the DMV to upgrade to a Real ID or something.
     
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    Russians standing in line for the privilege of buying bread... but why quibble... Either is mind numbing and soul crushing...
     
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    I'm no lib but that won't hold me back from picking my favorite. Warren for sure. She just seems in touch with the people. She even drank a beer. In all honesty, she does seem like the perfect liberal candidate.
     
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    The Democratic Party is an affront to liberty for many reasons, but foremost among them is they advocate positive government.

    The United States Constitution is a negative document, i.e. it constrains government with negative verbiage - "Congress shall pass no law... "

    Furthermore, it only empowers government to engage in specific, enumerated activities.

    The Democratic Party has been working for decades to undermine and undo those restrictions.

    In short, they have been working to subvert the Constitution. Like all leftist, authoritarian incarnations, they can't abide being restricted from wielding power over the people.

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    Of course they sell their poison pill to the people in the form of "help", "assistance", "aide", "compassion", "equality", "fairness", etc...

    Everything the Democratic Party advocates can be found in the Communist Manifesto and other leftist literature.

    The United States Constitution was specifically designed to prevent positive government, and the accumulation and consolidation of power in a central government.

    The Democratic Party has been actively working to undo and overcome the Constitution since Woodrow Wilson.

    Sadly, they have been wildly successful, and our nation is now within sight of collapse.
     
  10. Observing

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    I don't think Trump will be difficult to beat. Very few like him as a person, even among his supporters. What the dems have to do is attack his policies such as starting up the nuclear arms race and not having a clear foreign policy that both our enemies and our allies can rely on. Giving/Selling military equipment and support to Saudi incursion in Yemen. The jerusalem and golan heights stance. The support of the multinationals cause in Venezuela pissed that their investment was nationalized. His stated wish to remove 30mill from healthcare.

    I think a Biden/Harris candidacy would be the easiest opponents for Trump. Both would have to defend Obomacare and they are just as much a part of the military industrial complex as Trump, so they would generate little support from the base.

    But no, 1/2 of them will just scream Russia for two more years while america turns a deaf ear.
     
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    That's a very childish and ignorant view of Republicans. Maybe you just don't know you're a Democrat...
     
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    Democrats said he would be easy to beat in the last election too. Too many feelings and not enough facts. There is no self-awareness in the Democrat party.
     
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    yes they did and they ran a totally flawed candidate. If you think that there is going to be another candidate like Hillary to run against this time your mistaken. Now Trump is the one that has to defend a flawed presidency and record. The republicans are praying it is Biden or Harris
     
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    how is section 8 negative? 9 and 10 are written as you say but 8 is proacative.
     
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    The Constitution Grants the FedGov, specific, ENUMERATED POWERS.

    As the 10th Amendment states, if a power is not granted to the FedGov, it is reserved to the States or the people themselves.

    Nowhere in the Constitution is the FedGov authorized to engage in most of what it does today. Education, retirement, medical, private property, crime, etc.

    The Democratic Party doesn't recognize or abide by the Constitution in any way. They have nothing but contempt for the Constitution, the American people, and absolutely despise liberty.

    Their decades long attacks upon the family unit are disgusting, and it amazes me that more rank and file Democrats don't catch on to the fact that they are sewing the seeds of their own destruction.

    Especially blacks - good grief. Wake up!!!
     
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    So how do you state that the constitution is negative inscope and not positive active when section 8 is all positive.
     
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    Maybe he means that the thrust of it is to create a government but limit power (no law respecting establishment of religion, no inreasonable searches and seizures) and to delimit power (grant power to Congress to regulate interstate commerce, but not all commerce).
     
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    If the enumerated powers were not defined, then the document as a whole would be positive - which is how leftists/progressives/Democrats view it anyway.

    To a leftist, to a Democrat, the government can do anything they want it to do. Congress CAN pass any law it wants...

    To a leftist, to a Democrat, there are no restrictions upon the government whatsoever.

    That is positive government.

    That is a recipe for tyranny.
     
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    The commerce clause is a good example... it has been broadened to the point where the word "interstate" doesn't exist, and the FedGov does, in fact, regulate "all commerce".

    The clause itself was put in the Constitution to prevent the states from imposing taxes on goods and services produced in another state - which could have effectively choked commerce to a standstill.

    To a leftist, to Democrat, it has come to mean they can effectively regulate every and all aspects of commerce, business, transactions, employee relations, compensation, workplace behavior, etc, etc...

    To a leftist, to a Democrat, the FedGov is the boss of all bosses.

    Of course the commerce clause in no way empowers the FedGov to do such things.
     
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    It's funny how the left picks and chooses. They see rights that aren't in the constitution at all (abortion) and don't see rights that are (to free speech, even if "hateful").

    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...-deans-wrong-tweet-constitution-doesnt-prote/
     
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    I am very awake, by your word "authorization" the other sides says its views are not noted as prohibited. And what do you think it means by "the people themselves" And how come the Supreme court has not ruled those laws regarding "Education, retirement, medical, private property, crime, etc." unconstitutional in 225 years.
     
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    Under pressure in 1937 they gave in to FDR's radical policies. Since then the liberal majority endorsed every liberal issue that came up. Right now is the time to start a challenge if you can find a law flimsy enough to go after.
     
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    That's a ridiculous argument on its face; but, even so, the Framers foresaw such nonsense - which was the motivation behind the 10th Amendment itself.

    All of the Founders writings, and 148 years of Constitutional interpretation are consistent with the negative and restrictive nature of the Constitution.

    It wasn't until the 1930's that America's monied elite, the banking class, the so-called Money Trust, was finally successful in putting forth one of their puppets (FDR), and they were able to use the crisis they created (the stock market crash and Depression) to swing the Supreme Court and effectively neuter the Constitution.

    "The people", "the States", and the FedGov are all separate entities.

    Of course, since the left and the Democratic Party subscribe to the maxim "the ends justifies the means" - dishonesty, lying, cheating, and certainly playing dumb are all acceptable behavior.

    Before Money Trust puppet FDR was finally successful in flipping the court in '37-38, he floated the idea of "packing the court" precisely b/c the sitting Justices refused to rubber stamp policies that were, and still are today, unconstitutional.

    Since FDR's time, virtually every SC Justice, regardless of party affiliation, has been an Establishment approved lackey.

    A few have been okay, most recently Scalia and Thomas; but most have been committed to destroying the "original intent" of the Constitution.

    Ruth Bader Ginsburg makes no bones about it - the U.S. Constitution means absolutely nothing to her. It in no way guides her in her rulings.
     
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    Well there is a conservative court now and if trump wins again in 2020 will be more conservative than any. And none of Social security, education, medicare will be declared unconstitutional.
     

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