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  1. wist43

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    Not only are they unconstitutional, they are wholly destructive of liberty.

    The ruling elite you carry water for would have it no other way.
     
  2. Observing

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    How come Scalia or Thomas never voiced that opinion?
     
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    Not as long as a liberal will tell a lie.
     
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    Biden has no base. Lmao, I hope he gets the nomination.
     
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    I don't know ... the Dems may turn out en masse and vote for a yellow dog if it means replacing Trump.
     
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    Bring it. I think it will be very fun to watch.
     
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    I don't vote Democratic.
     
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    They dissent all the time.

    What are the odds that the Establishment press is going to focus on why something is unconstitutional??

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    Was watching an interview with Thomas Sowell a few weeks ago, and he was talking about Affirmative Action and why it is unconstitutional and harmful.

    He referred to a case that went to the SC for which Sandra Day O'conner wrote the majority opinion.

    In that opinion she acknowledged that the law was unconstitutional, but necessary for about another 15 years.

    Clarence Thomas wrote the dissent, and agreed that it was unconstitutional - unconstitutional in 15 years, and unconstitutional today.

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    No SC Justice should ever be ruling upon any case outside the bounds of the Constitution.

    Sandra Day O'conner should have been impeached, as should almost every SC Justice since the 30's.
     
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    I understand that you Democrats don't care about the Constitution and the rule of law.

    If you did care about those things you would republicans (little r); but of course you are not. You are democrats (little d).

    To be ruled by others is easier than self governance and self reliance.
     
  10. robini123

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    As an independent that will not vote for Trump I will likely not vote at all. I see no real contenders on the left. Those in the running so far will be eaten alive by Trump. Biden is the only democrat I would likely support as he can go toe to toe with Trump in a debate and hold his own. The other democratic contenders will look feeble in a debate with Trump.
     
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    I don't see why anyone would be eaten alive by Trump. In fact, I'm sure most people will be quite tired of his act by then.
     
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    His popularity is gaining and most voters care about the economy which is doing well. The republicans are rallying together while the left is fighting amongst itself. I could be wrong about 2020 though as I thought that Trump had no chance to win.
     
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    Looking at the numbers, I do not see his popularity gaining. I just see a propaganda effort to make everyone believe that, presumably in order to try and make that fiction a reality (bandwagon effect).

    Republicans are also not that unified, especially anywhere off the Hill. Sure, the Congressional Republicans are still mostly fighting to keep cohesion with Trump, because they sense political death if they don't. But otherwise, I don't know. Trump sure isn't going to carry independents again. His polling in states like Michigan is actually abysmal at present:

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2019/03/08/donald-trump-michigan-poll/3095850002/

    WASHINGTON – A new poll has more bad news for President Donald Trump's 2020 re-election hopes in Michigan, showing that more than half of those surveyed either plan to vote for someone else or are considering doing so next year.

    The poll, conducted by EPIC-MRA of Lansing, largely tracks with other recent polls done in Michigan and in some other states such as Wisconsin and Florida that show Trump could be in trouble some 20 months before the next election.

    It also comes at a time when Trump has failed to reach a deal to denuclearize North Korea and both the budget deficit and the trade deficit have increased significantly. The president also faces a vote in the Senate to repudiate his emergency declaration calling for construction of a wall on the southern border.

    Without question, there is time for circumstances to change in Trump's favor, however, especially since campaigning hasn't started and the Democratic field is far from settled. But the poll indicates that Trump faces what could be a tough climb in a state that he won by less than 11,000 votes in 2016.

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    Of course, it will depend a lot on what the DNC does between now and campaign season as well. But I figure they are bound to do better than they did with Hillary, and now we have more than 2 long years of Trump's presidency to look back on. I don't think a reasonably good economic situation will do it for him. It isn't like he actually did anything to make it happen. He inherited an already improving economy and can't point to anything but a tax break for the wealthy since then.
     
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    What is the left fighting and arguing about? Besides Gabbard who else has drawn any ire? To me all the dems except for Gabbard want to keep feeding the Military Industrial complex. Harris, Biden, Booker, Klobuchar, Butteigieg are in bed with walll street as much as Trump are. But they say they want to reign them in while taking their money!
    Warren, Yang, Gabbard and Sanders are anti wall street. I mean there will be some arguing on how far to go with medicare for all but they all agree on government taking a bigger role in healthcare, And a tax increase for the top 5%
     
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    In case you don't know, most voters in Michigan voted for someone else in 2016, but the someone else was divided among 3 serious candidates and some hopeless ones.
     
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    I guess it is ok for Russia, China, North Korea, Pakistan, Iran and others to continue build Nuclear weapons and sell them to our enemies? Oh Wait! These are our enemies.


    Thursday, November 29, 2018
    This week, Secretary of State Michael R. Pompeo announced (link is external)the United States is providing nearly $131 million in additional emergency food assistance to the people of Yemen, who are suffering from the world's largest humanitarian crisis and food-security emergency. This brings the total U.S. humanitarian assistance for the Yemen response to more than $697 million since the beginning of Fiscal Year 2018.

    During a food crisis, preventable disease is a leading cause of death. The State Department and USAID are working with partners to provide more Yemenis with life-saving assistance and ensure that food, safe drinking water, nutrition assistance, sanitation and hygiene services, and medical care are reaching individuals and areas at the highest risk of famine. State and USAID are also scaling up development and early recovery assistance to help address the underlying causes of the crisis and strengthen the ability of institutions to meet the needs of all Yemenis.https://www.usaid.gov/news-informat...tes-announces-emergency-food-assistance-yemen

    On February 26, the U.S. Government (USG) announced nearly $24 million in humanitarian assistance for the Yemen response, including $13.9 million from USAID/OFDA to support humanitarian coordination and logistics activities and $10 million from State/PRM to provide emergency assistance to displaced populations throughout Yemen.https://www.usaid.gov/crisis/yemen I guess this aid don't count ?

    What happens in Yemen can greatly exacerbate regional tensions. It also worries the West because of the threat of attacks - such as from al-Qaeda or IS affiliates - emanating from the country as it becomes more unstable.

    The conflict is also seen as part of a regional power struggle between Shia-ruled Iran and Sunni-ruled Saudi Arabia.

    Gulf Arab states - backers of President Hadi - have accused Iran of bolstering the Houthis financially and militarily, though Iran has denied this.

    Yemen is also strategically important because it sits on a strait linking the Red Sea with the Gulf of Aden, through which much of the world's oil shipments pass.
    What happens in Yemen can greatly exacerbate regional tensions. It also worries the West because of the threat of attacks - such as from al-Qaeda or IS affiliates - emanating from the country as it becomes more unstable.https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29319423 Do we support the Houthis who are aligned with our sworn enemy Iran and jihadists ?

    Every other President gave lip service to moving it's Embassy to Jerusalem and backing Israel's stance on the Golan Heights but always backed down. Trump had the nerve to do it.

    Madura is a corrupt politician and has led his country into poverty and famine. The US did not impose oil money sanctions on their oil until 2019. Here is a decent timeline.https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...imeline-of-the-political-crisis-idUSKCN1PN05S

    Biden/ Harris ticket sounds like a pandering to get the black vote. Biden in his usual way has changed his stance and is sorry he was born a white man. If he feels that way he should give all his accumulated wealth because of his "white privilege" to the black reparations fund.
     
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    Where have I heard that before?
     
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    From my POV the young blood is at odds with the old guard. Also you have Democratic Socialists pushing the party farther to the left while not all want the party to go farther to the left. The more to the left the party moves the more independents like me they loose, and it is the independents to who decide who wins as neither the dems nor conservatives can win an election with just the votes from their base.
     
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    Do you feel Republicans have gone too far to the right?
     
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    The words of someone who is in denial of reality.
     
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    "Democracy" been gud to you, huh??

    Cuz democracy = freedom, huh??
     
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    I would not say that they have gone too far to the right... yet. But I would also say that without the separation of powers that Trump would likely take the country to the far right. I would say that the GOP has made a deal with the devil by supporting Trump. I think than most conservatives are moderates who under no circumstance were going to vote for Clinton thus leaving them with Trump as the only choice. I think that a diluted GOP primary field made it possible for a nationalist demagogue to gain more traction than he otherwise would have if the field were much smaller. If I recall correctly Trump had 17 million votes in the primaries so it was that minority group that decided for the entire party.
     
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    America was founded by people who wanted to be free from the arbitrary rule of others.

    They wanted the certainty that comes with the rule law, i.e. PROTECTION FROM GOVERNMENT.

    Now that the U.S. is bloated with socialists, democrats, and fascists - all of whom want to misuse the power of government for their own ends - where in the world do those of us who desire to live in freedom and peace move to??

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    I would simply prefer an amicable divorce. Split the country into thirds.

    1) Democrats, socialists, fascists, communists
    2) Republicans (big R), neocons
    3) Libertarians
     

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