'Democratic' Party Should Change Name to Reflect a Toxic Ideology

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    ....”In the interest of full disclosure, the "Democratic National Committee" needs to rename itself as the DMC or Democratic Marxist Committee for they have become a toxic mix of Marxist ideology, anti-Semitism, class warfare, contempt for capitalism, and disdain for the principles upon which this nation was founded.

    Let’s acknowledge that the Democratic Party of JFK, LBJ and even the hapless Jimmy Carter is no more. It has been abducted by a radical left-wing progressive movement that is destroying the party from within.

    It is, essentially, a Marxist agenda demonizing successful businessmen and women, job creating corporations, and a strong America.

    It's as corrosive as acid to our national fabric and lethal as cancer to our political soul....”






    https://www.newsmax.com/lawrencekadish/carter-jfk-lbj-pelosi/2020/08/05/id/980707/




    This article is right on. The democrat party that I grew up in is no more. It has moved so far to the left. Reagan said that he didn’t leave the democrat party, the democrat party left him. The same applied to me as I became a Reagan democrat then transitioned to being a Republican.
     
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    The move of the democrat party to the left is vast and shocking, far dwarfing any minor GOP move to the center right.
     
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    Chortle, chortle, do people actually belief this guff? This bit "it is, essentially, a Marxist agenda demonizing successful businessmen and women, job creating corporations, and a strong America" made me giggle. Marxism refers to the contradictions in capitalism, ultimately engineering extreme inequalities. However, it also refers to its 'colossal' economic success. Indeed, Marx's views are similar to Schumpeter (who gave us the concept crrative destruction, ironically then used by right wing free marketeers).

    The fellow seems to be reliant on Cultural Marxism, a well known fascist trope. I sincerely doubt that anyone gushing such bobbins has read Marx. Trying to use it to pretend a left wing lurge by the centrist Dems is just ludicrous.
     
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    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/newsmax/

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    :roflol:

    The Dems are no longer pretending to be GOP-lite and this is "vast and shocking" to the OP?

    Meanwhile the GOP is still held HOSTAGE by the extremist far rightwing.

    Their wannabe Fascist-in-Chief just DEFUNDED Social Security and Medicare which is a JACKBOOT in the faces of all Senior Citizens!

    But that is NOT "vast and shocking" to the OP?

    :roflol:
     
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    The Dems are nothing like a centrist party. They began moving away from that in 1968 and have been drifting that way ever since despite the Ultimately failed attempt by by Clinton to stop the slide. That party’s drift to the left has accelerated since he left office in 2001 and the squad is accelerating the lemming rush over the edge of the far left cliff.
     
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    The democrat party has moved much further to the left than the GOP has to the right despite the effort of the lamestream media to disguise this and lie that Dems are “moderates” and the GOP is the one that changed.
     
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    No, we know what it really is.
    The lying hysterics will only grow louder as election day nears.
     
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    Your perceptions are wonky! The Dems have supported neoliberalism, a right wing outcome. Like other centrist movements they have attempted to employ median voter ideas (I.e. if we are neoliberal-lite we can attract the most vote).

    Suggesting anything Marxist about them neatly advertised the nature of that wonkiness....
     
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    I uphold your right to your incorrect opinion but the GOP was ABDUCTED by the EXTREMIST far right and ending up IMPOSING a wannabe fascist dictator on our nation.

    One of the clear signs of Fascism is to denigrate the media and another is to spread disinformation about their political opposition.
     
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    1st there is no extremist far right in this country to any extent, at least not if the term is to have some rational meaning beyond 'people who disagree with my extreme far left position'.
    I find myself precisely where I was forty years ago.

    2nd I've read every philosopher from Socrates to Camus. If there is more over rated hopelessly idiotic one than K. Marx I have yet to read him.
     
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    The Democrat National Socialist Party would be more accurate
     
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    I grew up as a democrat and todays party is far to the left of what it was when I left it because of Ronald Reagan. The DLC of the late 1980’s to 2001 was the last of centrism or moderation in that party and it was rejected by the party, even one of its own, Al Gore rejected it and ran to the harder left, causing West Virginia, Arkansas, and Tennessee to turn from blue to red and cost him the election. The Sanders and the squad wing of the party has had far more success pulling Dems to the left than the DLC had trying to keep them closer to the center.
     
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    Your anecdotal reminiscing does NOT alter any of the FACTS that I posted.
     
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    MBFC is about as bigoted and biased as they come. They are yet another mainstream media mouthpiece gate keeper of no value to any sane, rational or objective mind. They are simply a tool of the intellectually lazy to use to limit or degrade what others who disagree have to say. They use no scientific data or rational objectives to rate stuff, and their raters have no clear experience related to journalism at all, substituting their own personal bias and judgement for actual objective criteria. Notice also their disclaimer! So pardon me if I simply say that I take nothing they say to be of any value at all, and the worse of a rating that they give a media site over political or religious issues they have, the better that particular site is. So please don’t use MBFC to try to influence anything because the less nice things they say about media I like, the more likely I am to use what they rate poorly just because they do. MBFC truly sucks.
     
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    Your “facts” are simply nothing more than your opinion. It is obvious to all objective observers that the democrat party is moving ever more to the left. It is nothing remotely resembling a centrist party.
     
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    Why don't you name these far left policies? ;)
     
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    Your refusal to use CREDIBLE sources only HARMS your own credibility but that is NOT my problem.
     
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    you haven’t read the Biden/Sanders manifesto?

    raise taxes, defend police, weaponize the executive against policies rivals etc
     
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    :roflol:

    Asinine STRAWMAN all you have left?

    Where did I deny that the DP was moving to the left?

    The GOP was ABDUCTED by the extremist far right thereby creating a VACUUM in the center and moderate right that the Dems then tried to capitalize on but FAILED miserably.

    By moving to the center/moderate right the DP ABANDONED the left and they stopped voting which is why the DP was nothing more than the GOP-lite.

    It was only when the EXTREMIST GOP imposed their wannabe Fascitct-in-Chief that the Left decided that enough was enough and formed the Progressives who have been regaining the TRUST of the voters that the DP was ignoring.

    The Progressives have been slashing Republican margins and BEATING them in ELECTIONS since 2017.

    The Progressives will proceed to THRASH the GOP in November now that your moronic leader has openly begun his WAR on Social Security and Medicare. Seniors will ABANDON your party in DROVES because it has NOTHING to offer.

    :roflol:
     
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    when did you post any facts?
     
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    You still haven't referred to a far left policy. Tax increase, for example, is consistent with just an understanding of public good provision. Crikey, its even consistent with the Laffer Curve. A far left policy would be, for example, replacement of traditional ownership with worker ownership ;)

    Might it be something simple here? i.e. right wing Americans aren't particularly clued up when it comes to the political spectrum?
     
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    you’ve actually lost senate seats since 2017...what was with SS and medicare? you mean the payroll tax holiday for the rest of the year? the same sort of thing obama and biden did in 2009?
     
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    There is absolutely nothing legitimate or credible about MBFC whatsoever. They are just an editing and content control tool for others to use for that purpose. Nothing more and they are biased in the extreme. Their bigotry against evangelical Christians and pro Trump conservatives is blatantly obvious for all to see and their so called pro science bias is the biggest arrogant butthole joke of all. They dismiss as pseudoscience or conspiracy all who dare to disagree with their narrow minded consensus. They are like the Spanish Inquisition to those who disagree with them on issues of politics, religion, and science. Oh and they use the word of a terrorist inspiring hate group guilty of racism and being misogynistic to falsely label legitimate Christian and conservative organizations as so called hate groups.
     
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    raising taxes is a left wing policy....all the policies listed are what those that we see in leftist regimes
     

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