Democrats are making a mockery of impeachment

Since January 3rd, we are already inside the term of the new Congress. Seating Ossoff and Warnock won't change the Congress' term (It will change who controls it, but it will still be the same Congress). If Trump is impeached today and convicted by the Senate 3 months down the road, it will still be done by the same Congress, so this objection won't apply.

Congress doesn't change on 1/20. It changes on 1/3.

To answer your question, no, Belknap was not criminally prosecuted. He died 4 years after his acquittal by the Senate.

 

OK...so we're in the new Congress, but Schumer won't become Majority Leader (who controls the agenda) until Ossoff and Warnock are seated? What is holding that up?

 

Trump is awful but impeachment is a waste of time. He'll be gone it a week so what's the point?

 

The certification of those elections and the fact that the senate is in recess until the 24th I think.

 

Ossoff and Warnock will have their official Georgia certification by January 22, and then will be sworn in (Remember, there are multiple steps to verify and certify an election). Yes, until then, Mitch remains Majority Leader. Schumer takes over once Ossoff and Warnock are seated.

 

I thought both of the Republican candidates conceded? Maybe not? So, McConnell could speed that process up if he wanted? Anyhow, thanks.

 

The point is to prevent him from running again, and stripping him of a number of perks - his salary, 1 million per year for travel, secret service detail, etc. Also, the point is to send a message to every future wannabe dictator that the United States is still a democratic republic with the rule of Law and a Constitution, and a president inciting insurrection against another branch of government won't go without consequences and won't be tolerated. Pretty simple, no?

 

No, McConnell has nothing to do with the process. Georgia's Secretary of State and Georgia's Governor do. Yes, they conceded but that doesn't mean the officially certified results are in. It just means that their campaigns have accepted the result and are not asking for a recount, and are not contesting it in court. Still, the process of each Canvass Board in each county certifying the result, sending it to the State board, getting it certified, under the watch of the SoS, and then, signed by the Governor, with the certificates then being sent to and officially received by Congress (similarly to what we saw in the presidential election) is what needs to happen. That the two losing campaigns are not contesting, does expedite things but still, there are a number of days that go by for all of this to happen. There is nothing nefarious or untoward going on. It's the normal process.

 

The lewgislature still have to certify their votes I think. They have to the 23rd if I remember correctly.

 

Thanks.

OK...thanks again. So the purpose of impeaching Trump again is in response to the riot at the Capitol (as stated in the bill) and either results in a second impeachment without conviction or (if they wait for the Senate trial) assumes more evidence against Trump and his possible involvement in an attempted coup may come forth in the next 100 days, which would allow for a conviction in the Senate and the opportunity to vote against his future candidacy.

 

Thanks.

 

You're the one that can't be serious. Those very tenets were the basis of a worldwide movement that nearly took the world over in living memory. It is the height of absurdity to suppose that it ended entirely in 1945.

Racism is racism. White supremacy remains alive.

 

Let's not be naive.
This is not about great principles, the Constitution, eternal ideals or whatever you like best.
This is simply a political vendetta. Nothing else.

The impeachment of a President is a mere political matter. Representatives vote ... there isn't a Constitutional Court to decide. It's about representatives, that is to say politicians.

This is evident: the first impeachment of President Trump has been rejected by the Senate. So it wasn't a fair judgment, but a political decision. And remember that in the Senate to condemn a President it needs a qualified majority [2/3 of the Senators].

https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Senate_Impeachment_Role.htm

It would be a clear political decision for the GOP. We will see.

What I wonder is what will the Democrats say in case the Senate will reject the impeachment ...
Will they request the impeachment of the Senate? Or will they accept the rules of the system?
Even when they are not in their favor ...

In any case it's early to think to this. Let's wait and see what will happen in the Senate.

 

That is correct.

The impeachment has just passed, with 10 Republicans joining. While this is not much in terms of bipartisan support, it's been said on TV (I haven't verified) that it is the most bipartisan impeachment that has ever happened in the history of the United States for a president. Apparently the previous ones had even smaller bipartisan support. It's been said on TV that some Republicans wanted to join but were afraid that members of their families would be killed... that is sad, that we even got to a point where someone might have this fear, if the report is accurate.

 

So, the moron was impeached for the 2nd time.

I don't know.......what are they trying to achieve?

This pretty much guarantees that the impeachment will always be the 1st option. If GOP regains the House, which is possible in 2 years, they will start impeachment against Biden the same day.

 

I am not holding the highest position of the land, using the power of the government to try to steal an election for myself

if I caused that to happen at my work.... I would be fired too

 

Heard the same on the impeachment cross-over vote. I believe the second most cross-over vote referred to Clinton's impeachment wherein 5 Democrats crossed Party lines to vote for Clinton's impeachment.