Democrats Need Blacks Now But Will Flush Them Down the Toilet

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  1. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ask Obama when he was making his promises BEFORE the election.
     
  2. Junkieturtle

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    No, I'm asking you, because you're the one who made the comment.

    What is Obama or any president supposed to do to help black people specifically and how is he or they supposed to do it?
     
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    By ignoring them until the next election... like they always do
     
  4. Junkieturtle

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    What are they supposed to do to help black people specifically and how are they supposed to do it?
     
  5. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    This is both highly unlikely and completely unnecessary because virtually all blacks and most Hispanics already know that the Republican Party is the enemy of minorities in America. Do Republicans actually believe that blacks and Hispanics were likely to miss the Jim Crow voting laws that Republicans have been passing since 2012 to disenfranchise them? Do Republicans actually believe that blacks and Hispanics are going to ignore the racism and xenophobia of Donald Trump?

    Even former KKK Grand Wizard and Nazi sympathizer David Duke recognized it when he stated “I’m overjoyed to see Donald Trump and most Americans embrace most of the issues I’ve championed for years.”

    Anyone that hasn't recognized that the Republican Party is becoming the party of White Supremacy/White Nationalism in recent years simply isn't paying attention and the one demographic group that knows this better than anyone else are black Americans. They don't need to be told anything because they already know.
     
  6. precision

    precision Well-Known Member

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    What you are putting forward is nonsense and is the very type of scare tactics lies that Democrats use to frighten blacks to vote for them.
     
  7. Johnny-C

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    Brilliant and truthful!!

    Thank you!
     
  8. precision

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    What doesn't make any damn sense is that the President of the United States who says that it will be an insult to his legacy if blacks don't vote, can't say how he can help black businesses when asked. Does that make any kind of sense?

    The only way that it makes sense is that Democrats like Obama come running to blacks now when they need them. But after they get elected, which is when he made the comment about not being president of black America, they flush them down the toilet.

    Make sense to you? Do I have to draw pictures?
     
  9. precision

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    What you just put forward is nonsense, to put it lightly. Rather what he said was stupid and filled with distortion.

    This is the very reason why blacks are in the situation they are in, with no where to go but to Democrats. The black leadership has led their followers down a one way street trap from which they cannot escape. It is very pathetic.
     
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    You mean your RW propaganda sources don't tell you about Donald's plan? What a surprise.

    Republican front-runner Donald Trump would eliminate the Department of Education and Environmental Protection Agency as part of his plan to balance the budget, despite Fox News moderators pointing out to him it won't be enough. During Thursday's debate, Trump reiterated his claim that he would eliminate the Education Department and "the Department of Environment Protection," his term for the EPA

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/t...ent-of-environment-protection/article/2584908
     
  11. precision

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    OH??? You can't read with comprehension???

    Why am I not surprised. Do you know what eliminate means?
     
  12. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah, you might want to delete this post. Not because you were insulting but because it's dripping with irony.
     
  13. precision

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    There is no need to delete it. Show me in the article where Trump said that he was going to eliminate the Department of Education. Do you know what eliminate means?
     
  14. precision

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    Just so no one is confused, here's the direct quote from the article.

    THAT IS NOT ELIMINATING.
     
  15. precision

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    Yep, the rhetoric was different after black folks help to put Obama in office. Here's an article from Ebony

    http://www.ebony.com/news-views/obama-im-not-president-of-black-america#axzz4Kt1dindZ

    That's just what I am talking about. At election time its black people insulting his legacy, but right after the election Obama is I'm not the president of black America. What's up with that?
     
  16. Junkieturtle

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    I do.

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/eliminate

    Eliminating something does not mean you get rid of it completely. You can "eliminate" most of something.

    But you're just arguing semantics at this point. He has stated his intentions in the same way that one Texas governor who ran during the last race said he was going to, despite Trump actually remembering the departments he stated he was going to eliminate.

    If you're okay with getting rid of everything but a few little "tid bits", you're effectively in favor of eliminating whatever that thing is. You sound like a kid trying to argue that you didn't eat ALL the cookies because you left 1.5% of them in the cookie jar(after eating the rest).
     
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    Uh,Typical politician?
     
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    To the degree the Democrats allow bipartisanship, yes. There will be ignoring of the Black and other minority communities.

    With Obama, we had folks like Beck, that Screamed OBAMA hates white people. So that any help he might offer them, is squelched by the furor.

    When Hillary is CORONATED, they will SCREAM OFF with male heads, so she cant do anything for her kind. And SO IT GOES.
     
  19. precision

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    Eliminate most of something? That is not what the poster said. He did not say that Trump said he was going to eliminate most of the department of education. He said Trump said he was going to eliminate it. And BTW your link does not say get rid of most of something. Here's what it says

    Oh you are talking about semantics now??? It seems you didn't have a problem with semantics when the notion was put forward that Obama would be insulted if blacks didn't vote for Hillary. Then you were all about semantics.

    Since you like that one so much, here's some more nit picking semantics. Where did you pull that 1.5% from? Are you trying to say that I am OK with Trump leaving only 1.5% of the department of education? Is that what you want to mislead people into believing? That fact is that I am not OK with reducing the department of education. Furthermore, the fact is that even if elected, TRUMP WILL NOT ELIMINATE THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, as you and others would have us believe.
     
  20. precision

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    YEP!!! That is it. Now he is talking about blacks insulting his legacy. But then it was all that I am not the president of black America. Man, its amazing what people will not try.
     
  21. precision

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    No they will be ignoring the black community because they will have used them for their purposes. Once that purpose is served and they are no longer useful, blacks will be flushed down the toilet.

    What would make it different is that if blacks could afford to pay Hillary Clinton $200,000 a speech for 20 speeches are so. Then you might see HRC give a damn about blacks folks.

    What help? When they asked him about helping black owned businesses Obama was like I am not the president of black America.
     
  22. Junkieturtle

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    When? When I was asking what it was that Obama or anyone could actually do to help black people specifically and how would they do it?

    1.5% = "tid bits"

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tidbit lists it as "a small morsel of food". The same site lists a morsel as "a small piece of food : bite". A bite of something is not the whole something. In fact it's usually a small percentage of the whole. So I will admit I took some creative liberties when writing 1.5%. I'm willing to go as high as 2.5%. No, it's Wednesday, it's Hump Day, 3%. I'll go 3%.

    If you're not in favor of eliminating the Department of Education, why would you vote for a candidate who is in favor of eliminating the Department of Education? These are the questions you must ask yourself before casting a vote for a gigantic phallus.
     
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    Don't feel bad,he didn't help white-owned businesses,either. :roflol:
    He didn't help many Americans at all with much of anything.
    I'd almost bet he shows up on TV today.
    Oh wait;He helped black businesses.







    Get burned to the ground.
     
  24. precision

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    Consider this

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/17/politics/obama-black-congressional-caucus/

    In that case you were all over the semantics and pointed out that Obama did not say that, although that is what he meant in essence. Now you are complaining about semantics. Get it?

    Here's some more nit picking semantics for you. Actually I pointed out to the poster that if it is indeed the case that Donald Trump wants to eliminate the Department of Education, then blacks should vote for Jill Stein. How do you like them apples?
     
  25. DarkSkies

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    Precision is right though. I want to add that yes the work to promote African-American and other minority rights has gone like this: All minorities can leverage the civil rights to help their causes and get actual things done for them. For example, the LGBT community is able to get married now. However, despite the loyalty the African-Americans provide the Democrats, the best they can get is lip-service and gutted-out legislation. For this (*)(*)(*)(*)-poor representation, they are then sought after to vote blindingly for Democrats every election.

    Another thing, the Civil Rights Act of 1965 may have been signed by a Democratic president, but it was due to pressure and lobbying from the Republicans. Democrats had to be dragged kicking and screaming for that one, so I don't know how they get any credit for that at all. They couldn't even pass it without stripping the original bills bare-clean.
     

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