Democrats Reject One-Week Extension Of $600 Unemployment Boost Amid Otherwise 'Productive' Talks

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  1. Zorro

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    Not even one week?

    Nancy Says NO! Heads home to her ice cream.
    No surprising, Nancy is a spoiled rotten petulant brat.

    I don't know who pulls her strings, but, I suspect they will talk with her over the weekend and when she returns next week that some sort of deal will be made.
     
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    Pelosi was asked about this by a reporter and she proceeded to scream "NO!!!!" at her several times, both at the podium and off stage.

    Maybe one day the democrat party will care about the unemployed, but thats not today.

     
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    Why give Mitch the Bitch any breathing room? The sooner he gives up on the idea of corporate immunity and graft, the better off We the People will be. If Republicans were even remotely serious about this, the Senate would be in session right now. You, like the House is.
     
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    https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/02/politics/stimulus-negotiations-pelosi-mnuchin-coronavirus/index.html

    According to the Brookings Institute, there are several misconceptions Republicans have tried to spin as reality, calling it “unemployment on steroids.”


    “First, critics portray the situation as if the worker has a choice on whether to collect benefits or return to work, and that workers will choose to remain unemployed if the UI benefits are higher than their pay,” said Brookings. “Second, they suggest that employers don’t have the power to retain workers or call them back to work if they want to, and that there are no other options for employers but to ‘compete’ with the benefit levels. Third, they suggest that public benefits available for nonessential workers are making essential workers feel undervalued.”


    Steve Mnuchin confessed that the bill is going to have to be bipartisan to get passed.


    “We obviously need bipartisan support to get any deal done, the last two deals we got done 96-0 and 100-0. I think it’s pretty fair to say that we’re not going to do that again,” he said.


    Pelosi isn’t backing down on the benefits, however.


    “The amount of money that is given as an enhancement for unemployment insurance should relate to the rate of unemployment, so as that goes down, you can consider something less than the 600, but in this agreement, it’s 600,” Pelosi explained.
     
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    Republicans want people so desperate they will be at the mercy of employers to take as little as possible. Absolutely nobody should find that surprising.
     
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  6. US Conservative

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    That's silly. We know who the party of job growth and prosperity is and its not the democrats.
     
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    Really?

    I think I have seen that posted at PF about 15 Times.

    Apparently on Twitter, Original Thought is wearing thin among Pelosi's "Haters".

    I think the Twitter Crowd needs to move on from that clip.

    Is that gonna be one of those clips that will reach the 1,000 Times Posted mark by November?

    What's the Over/Under.

    Anyway, as far as rejecting that $600/wk, I think that Nancy was looking for more of a Long-Term deal and not a 1-week band-aid.
     
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    You and reality really need to patch up your differences... [​IMG]

    More job growth in Democratic counties than Republican ones: report

    More jobs are being created in Democratic counties than GOP strongholds that voted for President Trump in 2016, according to an Associated Press analysis, contradicting the president's assertions that jobs are "flooding back" into economically vulnerable areas that voted him into office.

    The news service found that 58.5 percent of the significant job gains touted by Trump were concentrated in areas that backed Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton in 2016.

    The AP also found that 35.4 percent of Trump counties have lost jobs in the past year, compared to 19.2 percent of Clinton counties
    .

    Economists Agree: Democratic Presidents are Better at Making Us Rich. Eight Reasons Why.

    [​IMG]


    Job Creation Stats Under Republicans and Democrats

    The twenty best years of the last 59 were:

    1955 (Eisenhower, R)
    1978 (Carter, D)
    1965 (Johnson, D)
    1977 (Carter, D)
    1966 (Johnson, D)
    1972 (Nixon, R)
    1983 (Reagan, R)
    1984 (Reagan, R)
    1968 (Johnson, D)
    1964 (Johnson, D)
    1994 (Clinton, D)
    1959 (Eisenhower, R)
    1973 (Nixon, R)
    1988 (Reagan, R)
    1987 (Reagan, R)
    1997 (Clinton, D)
    1976 (Ford, R)
    1999 (Clinton, D)
    1996 (Clinton, D)
    1993 (Clinton, D)

    1955 had the best jobs numbers with a 5% growth rate; 1993 saw a 2.5% growth rate.

    In eleven of those twenty, the president was a Democrat. The years are relatively evenly spread across decades other than the 2000s: two in the 1950s (out of seven years), four in the 1960s, four in the 1970s, four in the 1980s, and five in the 1990s.

    If we take out the first year after a party change in the White House, we remove two years that cast Democrats in a favorable light (1993 and 1977) and none that cast Republicans in a favorable light. That means nine out of eighteen “good” years had each party in office.

    The worst twenty years tell a different story:

    2008 (GW Bush, R)
    2009 (Obama, D)
    1982 (Reagan, R)
    1957 (Eisenhower, R)
    2001 (Bush, R)
    1953 (Eisenhower, R)
    1960 (Eisenhower, R)
    1974 (Nixon/Ford, R)
    1991 (GHW Bush, R)
    1981 (Reagan, R)
    1970 (Nixon, R)
    2002 (GW Bush, R)
    1990 (GHW Bush, R)
    1954 (Eisenhower, R)
    2003 (GW Bush, R)
    1980 (Carter, D)
    2007 (GW Bush, R)
    1958 (Eisenhower, R)
    2010 (Obama, D)
    2000 (Clinton, D)

    The worst year for job growth was 2008, with a net loss of 3.2%; 2000 saw a slight gain of 1.2%.

    We Looked At How The Stock Market Performed Under Every U.S. President Since Truman — And The Results Will Surprise You
     
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    We also know what party wants to hold back unemployment aid for 35 million people when there are only 5 million openings
     
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    Yeah the dems, unless you missed the entire subject of this thread.

    Pelosi wants to add "justice" and mail in voting to this relief bill.

    That is to say, she'd prefer millions of scared unemployed Americans suffer for her political benefit.

    Congrats, you picked a winner.
     
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    Said as you COMPLETELY IGNORE the dems determined to withhold those checks.
     
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    Said as you COMPLETELY IGNORE the regressives determined to cut any future checks by 2/3, and make corporations immune to being sued for forcing their employees to ignore their own safety during a pandemic.
     
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    America needs jobs, not "justice" checks from dems seeking vote by mail.

    The economy is structurally sound, if dems step away.
     
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    No, it's not. But keep telling yourself that if it gets you through the day.
     
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    The left kills economies, thats what they do.
     
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    Objective reality and the actual data say otherwise...

    See post #8
     
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    The house passed another stimulus back in May. GOP senate asleep at the wheel
     
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    democrats want it, but standalone, no republican nonsense added into it that would be used to bargain later on

    let's pass the House bill, why are Republicans against it? is it because it's mostly for the working class and poor?
     
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    funny, it's Bush and Trump killing economies looks like to me, and in case you forgot... they are Republicans
     
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    Trump and many republicans voted by mail.... are they bad people because they vote by mail?

    the Trump economy is a house of cards, ready to crash at any time
     
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    Hey, it's the GOP that wants to cut the $600 in unemployment benefit to $200, because they think the recipients are too lazy to go to work. You are barking up the wrong tree.
     
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    As far as the $600/wk bonus payment, on top of unemployment benefits, there is no way to justify paying people more NOT to work than they were earning working, and it also had the unintended consequence of incentivizing joblessness.
     
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    Why would Pelosi put the interests of unemployed and underemployed Americans before her party?

    That's not how the "Democratic" Party rolls...
     
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    Nancy rejected $200, $400, $450, and even a one week extension of $600.

    Those are simply the undeniable facts.
     
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