Dems Colluded With Ukraine In Election 2016

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  1. Horhey

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    A case of projection. The Dems and the permanent state accused Trump of doing the same thing they were doing. Mostly so they could restart the Cold War and devert attention away from the real reasons Hillary lost to an obnoxious game show host with no political experience.

    Ukrainian to US prosecutors: Why don't you want our evidence on Democrats?

    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-h...s-why-dont-you-want-our-evidence-on-democrats

     
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    Yes....of course, it's Ukraines fault.....blame them, also, Azov, Right Sector, Tymoshenko, Galizien, Banderites??.....did I miss anyone?
     
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    There are some interesting comments around the twenty minute mark in this interview.........

    President Trump is going to make sure this does not happen to V. P. Pence when he is elected President.

     
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    Guiliani was right about Ukraine being the initiator of the Trump collusion with Russia. Mecouris explains everything in the video and it is shocking - but it shouldn't be to anyone who knows what's going on in Ukraine. It's run by mafia families, and right now the election is between mafia families.

    I no more doubt that the assassination of Russian diplomats were by the Ukrainian mafias, then I have that the shoot down of the airliner in Ukraine was. The Nazis are just useful tools to do their dirty work - which includes everything from killing for body organs to hanging on lampposts to hacking and burning protesters in buildings.

    The money that was given to Ukraine, was never for the benefit of the people, it went into the pockets of the oligarchs and then into the pockets of Democrats such as the Clinton Foundation.

    These oligarchs hate Vladimir Putin, fearing that if he gains influence in Ukraine, what was done to the oligarch criminals in Russia will be done to them as well.
     
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    Not surprising that the current U.S. Ambassador to the Ukraine is an Obama holdover, Marie Louise Yovanovitch who was appointed by President Obama back in 2016.
     
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    Who knew Glen was such a drama queen? More, what does this guy have to say about his own party, and liberalism in general that have functionally diverted from the actual crimes that happened vis a vis the HRC and DNC connections with both the Ukrainians and Russians?
     
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    This is interesting! Looks like someone's out of favor.

     
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    As for Glenn Greenwald, he's making a lot of accusations about Trump being corrupt that disgusts me, since he's not presenting any facts to back them. Is it so he could lessen the criminality of what the Democrats did with the Trump/Russia collusion bit?
     
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    I suppose you're on to something here. It would seem that he's trying really hard to miss the obvious corruption within his own universe....
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think 'distract' would be a better word. He wants to present Trump as being even more corrupt than the Hillary, Obama, Biden team. Yet there's no basis for his accusations.. Glenn is angry that the Russian collusion didn't lead to Trump's impeachment, and instead works towards the detriment of the Democratic Party.

    The Duran video in contrast, gives an excellent account of what is going on. It's not an American site, it's from Cyprus.
     
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    You don't know what you're talking about. Partisan Dems hate him because he exposes corruption in the Democratic party. He reported on Obama's NSA spying program.
     
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    Glenn actually thinks HRC is worse than Trump. Both are corrupt btw. There are no good guys here.
     
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    I think the difference here is that people like Trump work within the law while others are working outside the law. Has nothing to do with being a nice person or not. As an example; I have someone in my family who had 3 children in private schools, and homes worth millions and yet never paid taxes - and it was all within the law.

    What the billionaires did was lobby for laws in Washington that would serve them. That way they wouldn't be doing anything illegal - and if something is legal, how can a person be corrupt? I don't blame Trump for not showing his tax returns. If he's being accused of being a criminal and corrupt now without any basis, then imagine the hype they would have when shown his tax deductions. They are probably in the hundreds of millions.

    This doesn't mean that Trumps accusers are not using tax deductions, of course they are. It's part of our system.
     
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    Rep. Tulsi Gabbard eviscerates Trump as 'Saudi Arabia's bitch'
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