Dems, DACA and fake news

Your "authority" wrote his book in 2007, more simply his opinions of the time. Like I said, I only need to read the 1824 Colonization Laws to see the facts.

Your authors "opinion" is just that. The 1824 Colonization Laws are the facts.

The point is, I prefer the facts to others opinions.

Claiming I am trolling is your last ditch effort when you are made to look ignorant.

 

Yes, you have been show to be wrong on Texas, and to yet keep claiming, without substantial evidence, that you are right nonetheless is indeed trolling.

You think your belief and opinion are facts: no, they are not.

 

Words, words and more words - saying nothing

 

Yep, words that mean something, whereas building the wall will be self defeating.

 

You haven't shown me to be wrong about anything, nor have you provided evidence that I am. The only fact I claimed was the 1824 Colonization Laws, to which show that immigrants into Mexican Texas were required to practice Catholicism and learn Spanish, they were not required to join the Catholic Church as you claim.

Here is a link to the Colonization Law: http://www.sonsofdewittcolony.org/cololaws.htm

Do you see Article 1.? Here is what it says: Art. 1. The government of the Mexican nation will protect the liberty, property, and civil rights of all foreigners, who profess the Roman Catholic apostolic religion, the established religion or the empire.

Now, explain and show exactly where it states what you claim. I'll point out nowhere does it mandate or require that one join the Catholic Church, nor does it mandate or require conversion to Catholicism.

Claiming I am trolling is your last ditch effort when you are made to look ignorant.

 

Oh look, now we want to be like Europeans. Your so called "illegals" have always been here due to the wishes and lobbying of your Wall Street/donor/"job creator" class who are always looking for a population more amenable to economic subjugation. Turns out that now, they have americans who have been beaten down enough to accept that.

 

The 2,000 Mile Wall in Search of a Purpose:
Since 2007 Visa Overstays have Outnumbered Undocumented Border Crossers by a Half Million

 

Your quote is not in full context. That is part of the requirement for American protestants to become Mexican citizens. This will help you: "Beginning in 1824 when the Mexican Republic adopted its constitution, each immigrant took an oath of loyalty to the new nation and professed to be a Christian. Because the Catholic Church was the established religion, the oath implied that all would become Catholic, although the national and state colonization laws were silent on the matter." Article 1 uses "profess the Roman Catholic apostolic religion." You don't know what "profess" means.

Your argument is caught in its own inconsistencies. Please don't keep arguing against consistency of the statement that immigrants were to become Catholic.

https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/uma01

 

LMAO Why am I not surprised Here is the way it works slick, Spain slaughtered the Aztec and took their land, Mexico in the 1500's!

 

No kidding.

Trump just needs to offer a "CLEAN" DACA Bill (with no moronic "add-ons" for the border wall, etc.)

If Trump is unwilling to do that, Trump is insincere and his supporters are unworthy of taking seriously.

Period. End of story.

 

Why did you not continue what your link states? Here is the actual paragraph from your link:

Again, where does it mandate that immigrants were required to join the Catholic Church? You seem to be confusing the granting of Mexican Citizenship with the simple act of immigrating legally. On a side note, after 3 years of being a resident they were granted citizenship without ever having to become Catholic. But that's another history lesson for another time.

Do you not understand the word "implied", since the oath only implied they would become Catholic.

You are desperately trying to claim superiority of history and each time get shown to be inept in your claims.

 

How about we just use the laws on the books already and simply deport the illegals? That way we don't need any more "Bills" to be passed by Congress and removes all ideological stupidity from the narrative.

 

So with this sort of ridiculous logic, after the colonist won their independence from the British then they all became indigenous to north America too Dude you're hilarious, the Aztec were Mexico's original people, the Spaniards wiped them out, AND like our colonials to the north that beat back their brethren from England to gain their independence so did the Conquistadors original from Spain/Portugal "how ever you like", did in Mexico for their independence.

But bottom line is, todays Mexican are not from Aztec descent, they are descendant's of Spain/Portuguese

 

Another Trump screw up. He ended it then turned down a very reasonable compromise ............his Republican Congress needs to fix it

 

I believe you are interpreting the would "profess" to your advantage and not in context to the statement!

 

I have no idea the point you're making. WTF do the Aztec's and Spain have to do with Mexican immigrants to the US?

 

I think fake news has become the new name for news an individual disagrees with. Rarely do those who claim news is fake provide evidence the news is factually incorrect.

 

Article 1 clearly states that if you were to profess the Roman Catholic apostolic religion then the Mexican Nation would protect the liberty, property, and civil rights of the foreigner. There was no mandate that they join the Catholic Church as Jake clearly stated. Professing (proclaim to be Christian as Jakes own link states) the Catholic religion was all that was needed to be protected by the Mexican Nation.

 

You have described yourself. Your own link says protestant immigrants must "profess" the RC church. You can't get away from it. And don't try that argument on a paper in a college class; it would get an F.

Profess according to Merriam-Webster means

Verb (used with object)
1. to lay claim to, often insincerely; pretend to:
He professed extreme regret.
2 to declare openly; announce or affirm; avow or acknowledge:
to profess one's satisfaction.
3. to affirm faith in or allegiance to (a religion, God, etc.).
4. to declare oneself skilled or expert in; claim to have knowledge of; make (a thing) one's profession or business.
5. to teach as a professor: She professes comparative literature.
6. to receive or admit into a religious order.

Keep it up, this is fun.

 

It states the Roman Catholic Religion (Christianity), not the Roman Catholic Church. each immigrant took an oath of loyalty to the new nation and professed to be a Christian

From that very same link: The 1824 National Colonization Law and the 1825 Coahuila and Texas State Colonization Law said only that foreigners must be Christian and abide by the laws of the nation, thereby implying they would be members of the established church.

I guess you don't know how to read what it is the link or I have stated, they only need to profess to be Christians as the link states, they do not have to join the Catholic Church as you claimed. Yes, this is fun, it's so easy to point out your inept claim and then show how you really don't know how to comprehend the English Language. Keep trying, eventually you might get there.

 

Worse, they murdered those with whom they disagreed with.

 

Back then it did.

 

I'm talking about in general and not this specific issue.

 

Can you provide a link to the source; not saying your wrong but I'd like to learn more about it.

 

we agree to disagree on this.