Denial of Abortion Hurts Women and can Kill them!

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...s-women_n_5f52647bc5b6578026cd5e51?ri18n=true

FACT #1: Having an abortion does no harm to the women that have them.

FACT #2: Being DENIED an abortion does CAUSE HARM to the women that were prevented from exercising their rights.

That was a TEN YEAR study!

It established that having an UNWANTED child resulted in POVERTY, domestic ABUSE, relationships failing, HARM to any other CHILDREN she might already have and DEATH in greater numbers than expected.

Those are the scientific FACTS.

Those who pretend to be "pro-life" and OBSTRUCT women from exercising their rights are actually responsible for ALL of the HARM they are CAUSING to BOTH women and children.

There is zero JUSTIFICATION for causing all of this unnecessary harm.

There is no argument that justifies FORCING women into POVERTY.

There is no argument that justifies FORCING women into domestic VIOLENCE.

There is no argument that justifies FORCING children into SINGLE parent homes.

There is no argument that justifies FORCING a woman into enduring a pregnancy and/or childbirth that KILLS her.

The facts are there for everyone to read for themselves.

DENIAL of abortions is HARMFUL to women and children.

The OPPOSITION to abortion is ANTI-LIFE!

So my CHALLENGE to those who are opposed to abortion is to REFUTE those facts WITHOUT resorting to EMOTIONAL appeals about the fetus. Use CREDIBLE sources that are based upon SCIENTIFIC STUDIES to disprove the facts above.

 

Thank you for posting what needed to be said.

Maybe, just maybe, those who want to deprive women of their rights will stop and THINK what misery their actions could cause...

 

Seriously? You're going to try to use "mental health" as a reason to end pregnancy?

 

This is just my personal hunch, but I would be inclined to suspect that losing her baby, whether it is through undesired abortion or undesired adoption, would create a similar type of emotional stress on the woman.

 

I could possibly imagine abortion being justified in an extremely impoverished society, where women are dying on the sides of streets.

But to say women should be terminating their pregnancies to advance in this world, and be able to climb up the career ladder without any hindrances or delays, that sounds a little out of proportion, not really a solid ethical basis.

That's like the difference between killing someone to feed your family, versus a normal person killing someone to buy a new sports car, to use an analogy.

 

Yes, it can kill them. But what are the actual chances of that?


Are they somewhere near the scale of being hit by lightening?

Interestingly, I think I did a quick calculation in another thread where I proved that the risk of a woman falling pregnant despite using a condom, and then her dying from the pregnancy, was about equal to the lifetime risk of being hit by lightening.

 

Uh, why not? Health is health....

You WANT a mentally unstable women to have kids???

 

NOTICE: YOU are NOT the one risking death.
My, how easily you dismiss the death of women...….

 

No, abortion has nothing to do with "killing someone to feed your family," or ""normal person killing someone to buy a new sports car""

Those are murder so , NOPE, no analogy there !

 

Maybe it's your "personal hunch" but that is nothing compared to :by Diana Greene Foster, a professor at the University of California, San Francisco in the obstetrics, gynecology and reproductive sciences department.

Foster has spent the past 10 years investigating the outcomes for women """"


….and you aren't and you haven't....

 

Could you expand more specifically on the connection between not having enough money and why that would make a woman need to get an abortion?

I mean, we know adoption is an option, so how exactly does having to continue on with a pregnancy create impossible financial difficulty for the woman?

(And bear in mind she can pay a midwife for the delivery rather than always having to use a hospital, and many times adoptive parents will even be willing to pay for the hospital bills if the biological mother adopts to them)

I don't doubt that there is a connection between domestic violence and not getting an abortion, but if a man is using domestic violence on a woman, angry she didn't get an abortion, this is probably not a man the woman should be wanting to stay with long-term.

Just a thought.

 

DON'T GET PREGNANT!!!!!!!

 

Uh, doctors and hospitals cost MONEY....did you think it's free?!!!!
Raising children costs money....isn't obvious!? It is to most people...

Doctors and hospitals cost money and those are necessities for pregnant women....EVERYONE ON EARTH KNOWS THAT WHY DON'T YOU!???

Midwives cost money and so do doctors and pregnant women NEED to see doctors during their pregnancy...EVERYONE ON EARTH KNOWS THAT WHY DON'T YOU!!!???

"""even be willing to pay for the hospital bills if the biological mother adopts to them""""

From YOUR post where you quoted the other poster...didn't you READ IT?????????


""""The difference between women who receive an abortion and those who are denied is that those who receive an abortion see a sharp drop-off in exposure to that guy, whereas the women who don’t receive an abortion have ongoing contact and a higher risk of experiencing violence.



No woman should have to be pregnant if she doesn't want to......why is it so important to you that all women MUST gestate ?...seems weird ….

 

Thank you for posting what needed to be said.

Maybe, just maybe, those who want to deprive women of their rights will stop and THINK what misery their actions could cause...OR NOT....kindness and consideration and mercy and human rights don't seem important to SOME...


I also note that it's time for CHERRYPICKING those INCONVENIENT posts for those with NO answers

 

Fact #1 Denying abortions saves babies.

Fact #2 The only "forced pregnancies" are the victims of rape.

If men can be held responsible at conception, then so can women.

 

Many services by midwives and doulas are not covered by health insurance so this would be an out-of-pocket expense. Add in the AMA and big pharma pushing midwifery onto the fringe of society which resulted in the shuttering of viable practices making them out-of-reach (and sometimes even illegal) for the majority of pregnant women.

 

So you are saying that just because YOU have NEVER heard of Postpartum Depression/Psychosis that it can result in SUICIDE and/or INFANTICIDE that these mental health conditions do NOT exist following the end of pregnancy?

Sad!

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/postpartum-depression/symptoms-causes/syc-20376617

 

There is ZERO scientific evidence to support your "personal hunch".

OTOH scientific studies have established that feelings of RELIEF are common following an abortion.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0277953619306999

https://www.guttmacher.org/gpr/2006/08/abortion-and-mental-health-myths-and-realities#

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4496083/

 

Why didn't you include the odds of choking on a jelly donut in your fatuous calculation?

Here are the FACTS!

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/6/flash-facts-about-lightning/

https://www.vox.com/2020/1/30/21113782/pregnancy-deaths-us-maternal-mortality-rate

So for each SINGLE person who was struck by lightning 122 women have DIED during pregnancy and/or giving birth.

Sad!

 

That AVERAGES almost $14,000 per YEAR!

A FULL TIME job at MW of $7.25 an hour brings in $14,500 per year BEFORE taxes.

So if EVERY cent is spent on the child what is left over to FEED herself?

Now could YOU expand more specifically on WHY you are completely UNAWARE of any of these FACTS?

 

@kazenatsu, with all due respect, I've read many of your posts on this topic and I can't help but wonder have you any exposure to any pregnant person? Pregnancy is very hard on a woman even when the partner is committed to the relationship. Your comments lead me to believe you've never met anyone (woman or man) facing an unwanted pregnancy. This is a very real and life changing decision. That shouldn't be reduced to some idealistic view of human sexuality on the backdrop of self-righteousness. Again, my apologies if that seems harsh. It's not intended to be.

 

REAL FACTS: Denying abortions kills and harms women.

Denying abortions destroys women's rights.

Denying abortion brings UNWANTED babies into the world.

REAL FACT: Women are forced to gestate when abortions are made illegal thus difficult and sometimes impossible to get especially in a timely manner.

REAL FACT: FORCE is what rapists use, like those who demand women remain pregnant, they have that in common, forcing women to do their bidding..

REAL FACT: They aren't.

REAL FACT: They are.

They are responsible , NOT YOU....so they decide whether to abort or gestate...

 

Perhaps they should rather decide whether to get pregnant in the first place.

We know what causes that.

They want to screw like whores and when they become pregnant then claim the right to choose to kill their creation.

It's murder.

 

I don't believe these numbers at all. It's either off or I have the world's biggest eaters and fast growers!

 

Can men "screw like whores" or just women?