Denise Mountenay's Personal Story

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  1. DennisTate

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    I've known Ms. Denise Mountenay for about five years.

    She is open, honest and determined that young women will be more well informed
    before they make the final decision to have an abortion.

    Denise is not attempting to make women feel condemned......
    she knows what it is like herself to decide to have an abortion.....
    but she is dedicated to making sure that women would better understand the risks that
    are involved in deciding to abort their child.

    http://www.canadasilentnomore.com/a...01/26/silent-no-more-women-and-men-speak-out/
     
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    AGAIN, a personal story whether actually real or made up as this one is, does NOT make one bit of difference to the rights of women....unless you think Denisey is god or Queen and thinks she controls the universe......and it still won't matter to thinking people ...
     
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    I am glad that you are pressuring me into finding more out about her.
    I had thought that she had had two abortions herself..... I was wrong.....
    she had three.

    http://www.xulonpress.com/bookstore/bookdetail.php?PB_ISBN=9781498401449&HC_ISBN=

    The Bride, The Serpent & The Seed by Denise Mountenay


     
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    Do you ever use facts ? What makes you think I'd read that claptrap?

    AGAIN, a personal story whether actually real or made up as this one is, does NOT make one bit of difference to the rights of women....unless you think Denisey is god or Queen and thinks she controls the universe......and it still won't matter to thinking people ...
     
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    On a scale of one to ten.......
    what rating do you think having an abortion might tend to produce in both
    the mother....... and the father?

    Do you think that this guilt leads to any other types of behavior......
    such as alcoholism or the use of illegal drugs for relief of that guilt and
    the depression that can come along afterward.


    http://canadasilentnomore.com/the-team/2015/01/25/melody-stefanson/
     
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    The number one reported feeling after an abortion according to a psychological study is .....relief
     
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    At first yes......
    but later on...... some times years later.......
    the guilt kicks in.
     
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    Prove it. Millions of women will say it was the right decision for them at the time. Lots of people regret having kids
     
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    Each woman who states that they themselves felt guilt afterward.....
    is anecdotal evidence that adds, and adds and adds up.


    http://canadasilentnomore.com/the-team/2015/01/25/maureen-brown/
    On the other hand.... I have to admit that
    in some cases......... having two or three abortions can
    become a catalyst that puts a woman on a mission in life that
    can eventually become a complete and total vindications for those
    errors of the past, that once caused such powerful feelings of guilt and shame.
     
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    And every women that says it was the right choice and they are glad they did it also adds up. Adds up to a lot more
     
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    You could be correct.... but the percentage of women who eventually go through
    serious feelings of guilt or shame does seem to be considerable.

    Add to that whatever percentage of women eventually get breast cancer......
    partly because they had an abortion rather than giving birth and breast feeding their child......

    then add to that.......
    the percentage who feel suicidal when that guilt or shame kicks in......
     
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    Well let's see your numbers. I see two. LOL
     
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    On a scale of one to ten.......
    what rating do you think being fired from a job might tend to produce in both
    the mother....... and the father?

    Do you think that this guilt leads to any other types of behavior......
    such as alcoholism or the use of illegal drugs for relief of that guilt and
    the depression that can come along afterward.?


    Should we outlaw firing people from their jobs?


    I guess you refuse to acknowledge any other depression inducing event (including pregnancy and CHILD BIRTH).

    And you have refused to answer how are we supposed to control every thing OTHER humans do OR WHY WE WOULD WANT TO (that is an illness).


    Another INconveneint question you have never answered why do you think it's your business to interfere in other people's private lives....to NOT answer that is dishonest.
     
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    The only time a woman would feel shame or guilt is if she listened to you......most women don't do either....:)
     
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    NO, women who have had abortions do NOT have a higher incident of breast cancer.......your refusal to accept that fact and keep spewing lies is quite sickening...
     
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    Now three.......

    http://canadasilentnomore.com/the-team/2015/01/25/gloria-lawrenson/
     
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    Are you sure Fox?


    http://www.canadasilentnomore.com/m...report-on-the-breast-cancer-link-to-abortion/
     
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    I'm sure....your data is always suspect even "across China ":roflol:


    That is the worst reason for making abortion illegal that I can think of and I've seen a lot of goofybutt ideas on it.


    YOU STILL can't answer why you think YOU are so special that you are responsible for what other people do.

    You can't address the FACT that YOU seem to think there is no mental or physical danger to women who get pregnant and give birth....and those are FACTS actually backed by science and YOU say they don't exist... So your agenda is clear- force women to give birth....no matter what happens to them




    Even IF your lies were true and abortion did increase a woman's chances of getting breast cancer...it is STILL her CHOICE NOT YOURS.
    Anyone who thinks THEY should choose for a woman or force her to do what they think is right HAS A MENTAL problem worse than breast cancer or depression.
     
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    Making abortion almost illegal in the third trimester........
    (unless the health of the mother is at stake)... is quite different than......"making abortions illegal!"
     
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    Nope, wrong....
    THIS is what the post of mine you quoted said:


    """YOU STILL can't answer why you think YOU are so special that you are responsible for what other people do.

    You can't address the FACT that YOU seem to think there is no mental or physical danger to women who get pregnant and give birth....and those are FACTS actually backed by science and YOU say they don't exist... So your agenda is clear- force women to give birth....no matter what happens to them




    Even IF your lies were true and abortion did increase a woman's chances of getting breast cancer...it is STILL her CHOICE NOT YOURS.
    Anyone who thinks THEY should choose for a woman or force her to do what they think is right HAS A MENTAL problem worse than breast cancer or depression.
     
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    Did you ever have an abortion Fox Hastings?

    Why are you so special that you can ignore the testimony of somebody who had three of them......... and felt guilty afterwards?

    My wife and I had a miscarriage while I was in Ecuador and I feel guilty that I wasn't in a position to buy a casket and have a gravesite for our twelve to fourteen week old baby.
     
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    NONE of that has anything to do with women's right to have an abortion...NOTHING...what can't you get about that????

    Plain simple words, NONE of that has anything to do with women's rights...nothing......


    I asked you that several times and YOU can't answer.......





    THIS is what the post of mine you quoted said:


    """YOU STILL can't answer why you think YOU are so special that you are responsible for what other people do.

    Can't answer??????????????????????



    You can't address the FACT that YOU seem to think there is no mental or physical danger to women who get pregnant and give birth....and those are FACTS actually backed by science and YOU say they don't exist... So your agenda is clear- force women to give birth....no matter what happens to them




    Even IF your lies were true and abortion did increase a woman's chances of getting breast cancer...it is STILL her CHOICE NOT YOURS.
    Anyone who thinks THEY should choose for a woman or force her to do what they think is right HAS A MENTAL problem worse than breast cancer or depression.
     
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    She has the right to have an abortion and to feel guilty about it afterwards. Certainly you are not suggesting we force women to give birth because of someone else's regret, are you?
     
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    Actually I am mostly saying that Ms. Denise Mountenay, has the right to warn other expecting mothers about the guilt that she personally felt after her abortions.

    Women need to be fully informed about all aspects of and probable results of Their Choice.
     

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