Depict the Prophet Muhammad in This Thread

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  1. Rainbow Crow

    Rainbow Crow New Member Past Donor

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    Let's do this thing PF! :smile:

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    This raises an interesting question, if Muhammad cannot be depicted, what happened when he walked past a mirror? Was it like instant blasphemy or was there no reflection, in other words, was the Prophet of Islam a vampire?
     
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    I was gonna make a happy muhammed smily with a beard and turban in ms paint and show it here... But it turned out I couldn't even make a proper circle... My paint skills are deplorable...
     
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    Dont get too high on your high horse you silly Christians, it is supposed to be against the Bible to show Jesus too, just because you guys dont take your religion as seriously as Muslims isnt exactly a "compliment", in my eyes it is, but in the eyes of supposed religious people it shouldnt be.

    Dont get me wrong, show Muhammad all you want, just keep in mind there was a time when Christians used to fight over this too about Jesus, it is in the 10 commandments not to worship any graven images isnt it? Pretty sure it is.
     
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    what are you, an iconoclast?
     
  5. Rainbow Crow

    Rainbow Crow New Member Past Donor

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    You're as classy as ever I see.

    On a not-crazy note, May 20th is arguably "Everybody Draw Muhammad Day." I'm going to mark it down in my calendar and I urge others to do so as well.
     
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    I suppose it depends how you define it, by this definition yes I definitely am
    "People who engage in or support iconoclasm are called iconoclasts, a term that has come to be applied figuratively to any individual who challenges "cherished beliefs or venerated institutions on the grounds that they are erroneous or pernicious"."

    But no seriously if Christians really took their bible and their commandments literally, they would be upset at portrayals of Jesus too, its their first rule of their damn 10 commandments yet they ignore it entirely like they do with half of everything in the bible, they only believe in what they want to believe in the bible than willfully ignore all of the rest.

    "In Christianity, iconoclasm has generally been motivated by people who adopt a literal interpretation of the Ten Commandments, which forbid the making and worshipping of "graven images or any likeness of anything".[2] The degree of iconoclasm among Christian sects greatly varies. Islam, in general, tends to be more iconoclastic than Christianity, with Sunni Islam being more iconoclastic than Shia Islam."
     
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    The 10 commandments are Old Testament and you've misinterpreted the graven image passages, probably you have never actually bothered to read them.

    Seriously, do you have a drawing of Muhammad that you'd like to share?
     
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    Wow, dumb strikes again. old testament/= new testament.
     
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    I misinterpreted "You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below." (Exodus 20:4) as meaning you cannot create icons of Jesus and God? It sounds pretty damn obvious thats what they are saying, you are just dodging and pulling the same card Muslims do, "you are just misinterpreting our holy book!!" :roflol: Christians have the same bull(*)(*)(*)(*) excuses as the Muslims, exactly word for word the same.
     
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    Rainbow Crow New Member Past Donor

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    Try reading the sentence that comes before the first one you quoted. By a literal interpretation of what you've copied here, it would say that you can't draw anything at all.
     
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    "Don't misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose." - Matthew 5:17
     
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    You left out the phrase "to worship" That at the time the passage was written was the use to which graven images were put. You could have all the pictures you wanted provided you didn't worship them.
     
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    Thats part of the reason the bible is so stupid, it makes irrational demands. To claim something shouldnt be taken literally, than turn around and take literally Jesus and God, Noah, Moses, all of that nonsense, well thats intellectually dishonest. How do you know what to take literally and what not to take literally? You dont, you are guessing, its blatantly obvious.

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    :roflol: The semantics are strong in this one
     
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    Too bad they are nonexistant with you or you wouldn't be making such idiotic arguments. Jesus' purpose was to fulfill the commandments since no one born fully human could possibly do so.
     
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    I'm guessing this prevarication is because you read it and realized you were wrong. The "graven images" passage doesn't refer to Jesus, God or all drawings, it's within the context of "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me" which is to say that the graven images refers to worshipping other gods.
     
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    Everyone has their own interpretations, what makes you think yours is absolute? Others were saying I was wrong because he meant you cant worship the images but you can draw them, but you are saying you cant draw images of other gods but worshipping and drawing God is just fine, notice how your interpretation is different from the other Christian apologists here? You all have your own different opinion on why it is you are allowed to worship, or at least draw, these images of God and Jesus. You Christians cant even agree amongst yourselves, you expect me to choose one of you to agree with? Not going to happen, all of you Christians and Muslims are full of (*)(*)(*)(*), all religion is nonsense.

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    So we needed a celestial dictator to come down and save us? :roll:


    I call bull(*)(*)(*)(*)
     
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    And this is different from your apparent belief that if we can find just the right political system then, all men will be brothers and we will all sit around singing jolly old union cants or whatever until the sun novas, exactly how?
     
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    Clearly not what I said, I was only correcting your misinterpretation which entirely missed the mark. It's not good for your health to be this bitter, you should consider a lifestyle change.
     
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    Claiming something to be true or false without providing absolutely any substance whatsoever is very intellectually dishonest.
     
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    Then please quit doing it...
     
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    And once again another idiotic comparison what Christianity 600 YEARS AGO Today, now, in this time period there is only one religion that is killing people for drawing pictures of their precious figure.
     
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    America's population is largely Christian, and they overwhelmingly support torture and execution, more people are incarcerated in America than anywhere else on the planet, if you look at a list of who executes the most people America is right up there with the Islamic Nations, "The countries with the highest number of executions were China, Iran, Iraq, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, USA and Somalia." http://www.theguardian.com/world/datablog/2014/mar/27/death-penalty-statistics-2013-by-country

    Aside from China, which obviously has more executions due to their incredibly immense population, America is on the same list as mostly hardcore Muslim nations when it comes to execution. So no, this is not some "600 year old" thing im talking about, today Christians kill just about as many people as Muslims do, if not more. Just because they are killing them with bombs/guns or lethal injections instead of swords does not mean they deserve any extra credit.
     

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