Deputies fatally shoot Black man in L.A. who dropped gun from bundle

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  1. gabmux

    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not the one using the lame excuse of "nobody's perfect". Are you saying that's not a lame excuse?
    Saying "nobody's perfect" and claiming to be perfect are not the same thing.
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He gambled that cops are law abiding citizens. Big mistake
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sounds like a fair response from fiddler...
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In other words, "nobody is perfect" is a fact, not an excuse.
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Does using a "fact" as an lame excuse make the excuse any less lame?
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Facts aren't excuses either. That's why they're called "facts".
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If your daughter used the lame excuse of "nobody's perfect" mom....
    Would you except that argument? And how many times would you let her off the hook with that idea?
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In relation to this topic, Los Angeles Sheriff's Department shooting a man, did someone's daughter say "nobody's perfect".

    The thread has gone so far down some rabbit hole, that I'm not sure what the "perfection" thing has to do with anything anymore.

    Anyhow. What's the original point? :)
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol..."I don't understand mom" bet your daughter doesn't get away with that tactic for long either....
    As long as you except some responsibility for rabbit hole. :handshake:
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure. Great having a talk about nothing with you.

    ....and I don't have a daughter, but thanks for one more assumption.
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Announcement. We haven't grieved or even gotten all the facts for what's-his-name, or the what's-his-name before that this week, but we have a new political marty already. Someone's going to get some new free shoes and maybe a television or two.

    Haven't read the news story or seen any video yet, but I expect someone will start a new thread soon for Deon Kay.

    If they want to politicized the black men shot by police, then "Say his name!" ends up with about 300 names per year. Who can remember all those names? Seems like they should just stick with the few people whose deaths seem legitimately unjust and we could remember them all.

    The photo below is not Deon Kay, just some poor guy screaming at the camera, who the media has untruthfully convinced that "Police are intentionally hunting down black people". Shake my head.


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    This happened Wednesday (yesterday) afternoon.
    It was a good shoot so police released the body cam footage, officer's name, and every other detail they could a few hours ago.

    How many weeks ago was Jacob Blake shot in the back and the police still haven't released an incident report?

    Police need to wear body cams 100% of the time for their own protection. And they need to release the body cam footage within 24-48 hours. If they do that consistently then there will be less and less protests.
     
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    That would be 11 days, less than two weeks. That's part of my point. We don't need all these police shootings get publicized non-stop on social media. That makes the importance of real police injustice, like George Floyd, just sort of blend into the background. Jacob Blake already seems like "ancient history" and you can only count days, not weeks.

    Releasing the body cam footage did not stop the protests. They showed up on the mayor's front yard last night...even though this was a good shoot. People are just being driven to madness now by social media regardless whether it was a good shoot or a bad shoot.
     
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    My point is that if you release the video and all other info as quickly as possible, people will not react as quickly over time. The video and info was released only a few hours ago, so we will see if things calm down tonight. In this case he was only shot once, had a gun, and was taken to the hospital immediately. Why that couldn't happen with the other guy who they shot 18 times, allowed to go untreated on the ground for several minutes, then they hand cuff the dead body in front of the public?
     
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    Knowing that Blake was at a woman's house who had a restraining order against him, the one who called police to get him to leave her house that day, somehow leaves me lacking much sympathy for Blake.

    But back to body cams. I see Rochester Police just released body cam footage from March on a mentally ill naked man (Daniel Prude). He was spitting at officers and saying he had Covid, so they put a "spit hood" over his head and the video looks like they suffocating him in two minutes. The man's own brother made the 911 call for mental health help. Now that is a case that indicates that may indicate to the public that we should add medics and maybe social workers to join police (not remove police) on some calls. A medic could could have given the man in delirium something to immediately calm him down without smothering him in a spit hood.

    Some accounts get more public sympathy than others. Publicizing every single case makes the public numb regardless when the footage is released.
     
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    Dude was a real brain trust. Let me resist arrest and see what kind of prizes I win......

    I can't pretend to care about violent felons who resist arrest in the most stupid way possible. People like you can care for both of us. What your community needs is a massive low income housing project so the people you care the most about can live across the street from you.
     
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    Running from the police with a gun is now law abiding?
     
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    Only if you're the right demographic.
     
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    If it isn't....it's surely not a crime that warrants the death penalty. I believe when they started chasing him
    his only known "criminal" activity was suspiciously riding his bike.
     
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    Fascinating how we all seem to know what the others need....
     
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    Shoes are cheaper than a life, I guess?
     
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    All he had to do was stop when the cops told him to.
     
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    Maybe he's sorry he didn't....but I'll bet the cop is sorry he killed the dude.
    It sucks being responsible for someones death and living every day regretting it.
    I really don't comprehend folks that want to justify the killing of another person.
    It obviously doesn't make the world a better place, so what's the point?
     
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    Cheaper? If a black man is killed by police in your city, they're FREE!

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    There's even justification for looting today, a #1 Bestseller. You can get a copy on Amazon, or if a police shoots a black man in your city, just break out the storefront of the nearest Barnes & Noble and pick up a copy.


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    It's NOT the "same old excuse". It's a fact. Human beings are imperfect, and we f*ck things up from time to time. Actually, more like ALL the time, frankly I'm surprised LEOs don't do it more often than they do.

    Are you claiming that you are immune from that reality? That you expect others to be so?
     

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