Deputies fatally shoot Black man in L.A. who dropped gun from bundle

Of course not immune...just not silly enough to use that lame excuse. You would not except from your own child
but preach it's value for yourself to make yourself "feel" better.

 

Odd how people (well, some people) just don't get such a simple concept. It really isn't all that complicated when you put it this way.

 

I've seen a small handful, but for the most part no, they're not. Especially among the alleged "protestors" who are actually rioters and looters.

 

While I might not tell my child out loud that I realize people, even my own children, aren't perfect and as a result make dumb mistakes from time to time, my child would not know that I am "ACCEPTING" that kind of behavior as I am chastising them. Frankly, it's a stupid analogy.

 

Actually.... "god"....your statement above is exceptionally stupid.
No court in any country would except "nobody's perfect"

 

We had an event in my town back in the 80s that I witnessed from across the street as I was having breakfast at Hardee's.

It seems a homeless bum had went into a vacant house the night before to sleep. Someone had called the cops the following morning and I watched our swat team storm the house and it was actually funny to watch our keystone cops.

Well, two cops walked in and roughly woke up the bum , scaring him. He thought he was being robbed. And slugged both cops as he ran away through the front door. The cops inside started shooting as he fled and missed him several times.

The 3 cops outside seemed to empty their pistols as he ran like the wind, away from them..All bullets missed him!

Me along with several retirees started laughing loudly. It was pure comedy! With only injuries being a bloody nose of one of the cops who woke him up ..When these two came out another round of laughter greeted them..lol

They expected the perp to be dead! But he was not even wounded!

The bum was arrested later that day. When he turned himself in!!

So yep, cops can miss. All 5 of them in their black ninja garb!

Glad they all missed their target. But were the target of innumerable ribbing and jokes.

If only the cops had woken the bum up nicely! Lol They could have saved all that ammo as well as saving face!

I wish smart phones existed back then! We could have got it on video! Lol.

 

Sorry, but I don't trust the word of a police union. I want to hear details from the police in the investigation.

As for the Rochester Police, YES, we absolutely need medical professionals to respond to medical situations. That is the primary change behind the Defund the Police movement. Not to really get rid of all police, but to replace them on certain calls like this one. Instead of sending 5 or 6 police officers, send 3 police officers and 3 medical professionals (nurse and 2 orderlies).

And we are getting numb to things because there are too many cases. Almost like school shootings were before COVID.

 

I approve of the idea of all cops having cams at all time, with some provisions for privacy. I mean who wants to get filmed taking a dump? BUT, BLM and the other agitator groups have changed their position on this from being generally in favor to generally opposed, because far too frequently it was showing the bad guys were in fact bad guys, instead of the fantasy world of all police being racist thugs who want nothing more than the slightest excuse (if even that) to murder some random black guy.

 

I'm not a big fan of racing to release the footage at the speed of sound, no matter what it shows. I mean, it's evidence in an ongoing investigation, that sort of stuff is usually kept confidential until later.

 

What a complete load of nonsense. Do you have anything to back up this BS changing of position?

 

Again, he played a stupid game with the law and lost. That was his decision and his alone to make. Had he simply gave up and followed instructions he'd be alive today. Think of it like the The Flying Wallendas, tight rope walkers. No one made them walk out onto a tightrope hundreds of feet above the ground, just like no one made the guy in LA run from the cops and drop a gun. All he had to do was give up. Poor choices = poor results. You don't need to reform the cops, you need to reform the way young Black males interact with the Police. It starts with a Mother AND Father in the home. I know that's NOT what you want to hear. Please watch the Larry Elder Movie Uncle Tom.

https://www.larryelder.com/column/uncle-tom-the-movie/

 

Totally justified shoot, he went for the gun and they killed him before he killed them. Any word on his criminal record?

 

"Defund the Police" is still nuts. Keeping the police and adding an EMT and social worker to go out on calls where the suspect's family calls for help is just as doable and more rational.

...but some of these city councils really do mean "defund the police" literally.

 

who will pay for all these amenities? taxpayers?

leave poor areas underfunded for police, and send all the poor people from obama era policies back to where they came from.

 

democrats turned the suburbs into ghettos, making the middle class into some triage for the poor is not what it was intended for

they can go to marthas vineyard where obama and the rich can take care of them.

 

I get rather frustrated when I watch a livestream of my city council meetings. They throw out millions of dollars per week on various projects, many of which we do not need, IMO. The police budget is not the only department or project where they could reallocate dollars (without increasing tax dollars).

 

they shouldn't have to reallocate tax dollars to accommodate poor blacks and others.

the middle class is not responsible for reparations nor welfare.

 

Adding mental health service or a medic when a family member calls 911 to say that their relative is having a crisis would not only help poor blacks. If they sent a medic out on some of these calls, the police could restrain the person long enough for the medic to inject some quick-acting tranquilizer.

People on a fentanyl/meth cocktail are not in their right minds, will resist and they have "super-human strength". There is a medical antidote (I've forgotten the name) to prevent them from having a heart attack. Not that skin color makes any difference, but we have a lot of white people who could benefit as well as "poor blacks".

We have a mental health and drug crisis in America. The police shouldn't have to make that part of their job.

 

~ You said that perfectly. That's a fact.

 

taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for the care of drug addicts and people who don't obey lawful orders.

these are disproportionately people of color

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_stereotype_of_African_Americans

 

So you realize there's a good chance there was no father or no good example set even with father and mother.
Good on you. So now he's grown up and you want to put him in a ridiculous U.S. prison and teach him to hate even more.
And if he does not want to go to your archaic U.S. prison system...you decide you have a valid reason to exterminate him.
Perhaps you and those that think the same as you need the most help.

 

most of these boys without a father figure become dependent on the taxpayer as career criminals.

this was even true for obama, but he has plausible deniability.

 

I am aware of homicide stats. I'm not talking about that.

I'm talking about people freaking out on drugs and their family calls for help saying they are high and acting erratically or dangerously.

I'm guessing the officers here put a spit hood on this man's head and were waiting for a medic/ambulance to show up (kind of like George Floyd). Why wait for a medic while someone dies instead of sending a medic along with the police at the same time?

This man could have been tranquilized on the spot, (George Floyd could have too).

 

People are either an asset to society.......or a liability. To quote a 1970's TV show, "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time". It's time to take some personal responsibility.

 

Actually...people are much more than "either an asset to society.......or a liability."
As long as you're quoting TV shows...here's one for you from 1987....

"Nobody wanted to risk anything for anybody else. Everybody was afraid they were going to lose what they had. They knew it was bad. They were just afraid it'd get worse. That's all they lived for – for things not to get worse."