Derek Chauvin Murder Trial is on

Derek Chauvin trial to stay in Minneapolis - CNN
The murder of George Floyd is about to begin and the murderer is ex-Police officer Derek Chauvin in Minneapolis MN committed the murder and what happens from here remains to be seen.

 

If any of you get COURT TV or want to watch the show. Juror selection will be completed soon and the trial will begin.

 

He'll be acquitted, either by the jury or on appeal. This is trial by mob, using a scapegoat.

 

This is indeed trial by mob. The mob always having a foot in the door of being part of the jury and so no cop gets convicted.... even when it's freaking obvious as is in this case. No wonder that the city pays 25 million in damages. You just can't be sure to get a honest trial in the US with all them fruitcakes of flat earth, jewish laser beams, anti-vaxxers, creationists and what else whose fixed opinions matter more than facts from experts.

Experts as the chief of police saying his cop got trained about the dangers of restraining a person around the neck, and he just planted his knee in it. He knew what he was doing cause he learned not to. And he even got first hand experience since he chocked a person like that before.

Dude is a murderer, get over it. And he stole a large amount of money by not declaring half a million of extra income. So he's a thieve too.

 

My prediction? Chauvin gets manslaughter, has the maximum sentence imposed but gets out in about a 3rd of time served and disappears into the big blue safety net of ex-cops who employ those unfairly fired. The others all get off.

 

None of this is fair.

That officer probably should get a little bit of punishment, but it is more like a really low degree of manslaughter. Reckless actions that were not entirely necessary, which ended up causing a death, even though it could not have been known at the time that death would be a likely outcome. And on top of that those actions were in the heat of the moment, an immediate response, trying to do something overall which was necessary.

A fair punishment would be 6 months in prison, a 3 year suspension, mandatory extensive training before he could return to the job, and to have him pay for half the burial costs.

Yes, he sort of caused a death through reckless actions that were not justified, but it is the type of mistake that would not be all that unreasonable for a normal person in that job to make.
(of course there were other significant causes that factored into the death other than what the officer did)

I know a lot of people have trouble being able to understand situations like this. They are not always a "yes" or "no" thing, there is a spectrum, many different levels that exist between a no-fault accidental death and cold-blooded murder.

 

I remember back in 1978 San Francisco Mayor George Moscona and a City Supervisor Harvey Milk were gunned down by an ex supervisor Dan White and was found guilty of involunary manslaughter. This might happen to Derek Chauvin and if that were to happen there will be a protest that Derek Chauvin got away with nurder.

 

You have to put your passions on hold, and look at the facts.

Video was shown in court that Floyd had a history of swallowing drugs when cops were around. Floyd died because of a lethal dose of fentanyl, leaving us to surmise that he ingested drugs that he had on him. He was dead no matter what Chauvin did. We know for a fact that Floyd resisted arrest, asked to be taken out of the car and placed on the ground. All of these things happened before Chauvin used a restraint move. The courts will see that there is no way of knowing if Chauvin even contributed to Floyd's death, at least without reasonable doubt.

Nope, Chauvin will walk on any murder charge. He could possibly get a involuntary manslaughter, but that would be turned over on appeal. This shouldn't even be in court.

 

You people seem to be forgetting this ex-police sludge was a TRAINING OFFICER. He needs to burn. Killing suspects in custody is NOT what the police are supposed to train.

 

They overcharged him and it's possible he'll be acquitted because of it. Well, he could be acquitted in a situation where doing so wouldn't guarantee another burn, loot, and murder-fest. Chauvin is either an idiot or has a cruel side but I can't see a murder charge sticking. At least one forensic pathologist stated that Floyd had enough Fentanyl on board to take him out anyway. The neck compression hastened it.
ANY cop that does what these cops did, deserves to lose their job and do some time, BUT they wouldn't deserve long sentences.

 

Derek Chauvin deserves a second chance. His mom recently stated he was a good boy and just starting to turn his life around. That should be good for a few sympathy points.

 

I suspect he most likely would not have died if it weren't for that chokehold, but the drugs pushed him very close to death and it didn't take much to push him over the edge.

With all those drugs in his system, unknowingly having Covid, the automatic fight or flight response, being in a state of "excited delirium", and then being involved in the exertion of a physical struggle, restricting the air intake into his lungs (which were already working at reduced capability) was enough to cause a heart attack.

 

Totally irrelevant, just like Derek is a massive thieve.

There were 2 autopsies preformed. Both concluded that Floyd's heart stopped while he was being restrained and that his death was a homicide caused by "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression". So what you put up, is exactly the kind of fake reality that enters the courts no matter what the facts state. There can be no kind of honest process when people already have their minds fixed on a fake reality. Hence the family gets 25 million, if I remember it right.

 

My prediction? He’ll be convicted of some sort of murder charge. If you were on the jury would you vote to acquit? Not if you have a family.

 

27, but whats 2 mill amongst friends?

Floyd's heart happened to stop while being restrained. Beyond a reasonable doubt, and we're not there. The law doesn't care about our feelings, only what can be proven. Look at OJ, everybody knew that dude was guilty but they didn't prove it.

 

And that's a country I don't want to live in.

 

Well, enough to be a friend in need of 2 million bucks.

The autopsy is just clear how that heart stopped beating... and they call it a murder, because of what the cops did, and not because he was OD-ing like you previously claimed. Those are the facts. We all know that these are the facts. And I'm well aware that the idea of getting a honest process is just low, since it's the norms that plenty of people do not care about facts and just want it to be he died from OD-ing. It is what it is.

 

well it’s not the country I was born into, but it’s the one I live in now.

 

You think it would be some manslaughter charge. Well at least a gun wasn't used, just a knee to the neck.

 

that hold is used all over the US safely, and I've used it. the difference is that clown floyd was already dying due his poor health and drug choices.

 

"just" a knee ... in the neck?

Most people know that a lot of blood flows through the neck to stop your brain from dying. The 2 massive arteries are on your side of your neck. When lying on the floor, you put your head to your side exposing the side of the neck, as where Chauvin put his knee on blocking that artery. The thug knew exactly what he was doing. He was trained about these dangers and he got first hand experience with other victims who he knocked out with just his knee.

The way wrestlers tap out when they are being suffocated like that, or else have a referee that immediately interferes is not just for the fun of it to end the match prematurely. Maybe you're not a great fan and I can't hold you responsible for not knowing, but that thug deffo knew. He just refused to care and murdered him while smiling at the camera while his victim was helplessly cuffed. Rather typical that a white American cop does this to a black person. Statistics don't lie.

 

Chauvin pleaded not guilty. I should have know he was going to do that. There will be trouble if he doesn't get convicted.

 

Odds are that he doesn't get convicted. Almost no cop in the US gets convicted. It's a thing where facts don't matter, like the guy was trained about the dangers, he knocked out people like that before, 2 coroners rule it's murder... the guy was handcuffed and not going anywhere.... for some noting matters and just stick to that you shouldn't resist when a cop is chocking you to death. The chances such a person ends up in the jury is high. It only takes 1 for Chauvin to win.

The system is broke, and so riots happen.

 

First, based on the result, the sludge didn't know how to use it "safely" despite being a training officer.

Second, his "poor health" has nothing to do with this sludge killing him. If Floyd was falling from 10,000 feet and the officer stood on his neck and killed him just before he hit
the pavement, the officer is still guilty of a homicide.

 

He used the technique just fine. There are no techniques designed for drug addled clots in poor health.
Why is this technique used all over, by myself at one time included, but this one loser died? I think we all know the answer!

you don’t actually understand the technique, have you been trained for it or used it or any other arrest restraint?