Designs to drive away the homeless

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  1. Jarlaxle

    Jarlaxle Well-Known Member

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    Speak for yourself. I am not "three paychecks away" from being homeless. If you are, then you have a major problem.

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    Sure...let's build the first one next door to your house!
     
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    Question: Once they get the homeless off the streets and maybe into Low Income housing, who pays for monthly rent and monthly expenses?? So instead of getting them 'off' the streets, what other things might help them remain self sufficient once they do get off the streets? Employment training? Job Search Assistance? Job Placements? Places where people 'hire' out of? etc.... Daily 'temp' agencies could be an idea.. This, though, takes an effort on Private/Public businesses and Private/Public Job hiring/placing sites.
     
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    Crazy Politics....
     
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    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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  5. delade

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    How much monies does a State spend on the homeless issue without getting any answers or any resolutions? California spends billions on homelessness issues yet they are still facing high levels of homeless related complaints.




    1 million $$ will buy you an entire Town, with amenities and all. Billions verses Millions. Yearly verses once. Doing verses talking.

    What is/are the 'homeless problems' in Virginia like?



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    Projects Announced 1,074 Projects

    Jobs Created 207,000 Jobs


    Capital Investment $19.35 Billion


    VA's Health Care for Homeless Veterans program offers examinations treatment, referrals, and case management services to homeless Veterans at more than 135 locations. And VA's Homeless Veterans Dental Program provides dental treatment for eligible homeless Veterans.

    VA's National Center on Homelessness Among Veterans (NCHAV), established in 2009, works to promote recovery-oriented care for Veterans who are homeless or at risk for homelessness by developing and disseminating evidence-based policies, programs and best practices.

    https://www.research.va.gov/topics/homelessness.cfm






    What is a Veteran? Title 38 of the Code of Federal Regulations defines a veteran as “a person who served in the active military, naval, or air service and who was discharged or released under conditions other than dishonorable.” This definition explains that any individual that completed a service for any branch of armed forces classifies as a veteran as long as they were not dishonorably discharged. However, with regard to applicable benefits, other considerations are important and will be covered in later sections.

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    Under federal law, a veteran is any person who served honorably on active duty in the armed forces of the United States. Discharges marked “general and under honorable conditions” also qualify. Other qualifying events are any person who served in the active military, naval or air service of the United States and was discharged from the service due to a service-connected disability or filed a claim and was service-connected for a disability sustained while in the service.

    http://www.dailyrepublic.com/opinion/local-opinion-columnists/who-qualifies-as-a-veteran-anyway/


    I must say the definition of exactly what it takes to be a veteran is not an easy question to answer. I will do my best to give you an idea of the definition of veteran from the perspective of the Department of Veterans Affairs. If you are in doubt and you have served in uniform, please call our office.

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    Lying About Earning War Medals Is Protected Speech, Justices Rule
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/29/us/justices-say-lying-about-military-honors-is-protected.html


    House bill makes it a crime to lie about military medals to obtain benefits
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/2...about-military-medals-to-obtain-benefits.html


    People lying about military service face new peril
    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article24749794.html


     
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  6. Kode

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    So what do we really want this to ultimately lead to: isolated communities where we "keep" the homeless and the very unfortunate, or a plan to accommodate and benefit them with education and assistance?

    When I was a young guy in the 60s we didn't have a homeless problem. This is relatively new and a symptom of a decaying economic system. We need a new system that doesn't require such conditions in order that the rich may keep compounding their wealth.
     
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    One thing that is a failure is low income high risers..people become anonymous..low risers are successful. Also mixed income housing.
     
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    I think we did have the problem, but most of us didn’t know about it...where I taught in Brooklyn, it was quite a problem
     
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    It was a localized problem of "bums" but not widespread, commonplace makeshift homeless "communities" in every major city and most smaller ones. I live in a small community of about 6,000 people and we have a homeless camp in a wooded area by the railroad tracks. They come into town and panhandle and are creating a filthy area that the townspeople will have to pay for to get it cleaned up.
     
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    You first.
     
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    The problem is many of the homeless don't want to get off the streets, and the crazies can't not be sequestered in good locked shelters for their protection while long term alternatives are sorted out.
     
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    Actually, the problems is not the will of the homeless. Let's not blame the victim. A multi-prong assault on them put them out in the streets. First, mental health clinics were defunded back in the 1980s, and now labor-intensive jobs are diminishing due to increased automation of that kind of work. Add to that a decrease in the need for full-time labor as good jobs were moved overseas for cheap labor, AND add to that the fact that the big producers can't sell all that they can produce, making declining consumption a problem and resulting in low job growth.

    It is not the homeless, but our economic system that is causing and worsening the problem.
     
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    Huh? First at what? Do you mean first in mixed housing? Did that!
     
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    You are correct in part, but as I said, many of the homeless do not want to come in from the cold. That is the truth, Kode, and your opinion does not change it.
     
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    Not to worry, that's what our corporate for profit privatized prisons with convict labor leasing are for.
     
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    Living in a building full of subsidized apartments. No thanks!
     
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    My opinion doesn't try to change it. They don't want to "come in from the cold" for reasons. Just ask them. They will tell you some of their reasons. And they won't tell you some others, like mental troubles.
     
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    That part you have right.
     
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    ...homeless just need section of concrete and they are good to go. (L.A.)
     

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