Destroy America!!!

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by RoanokeIllinois, Jul 10, 2022.

  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    gun control is based the belief (or at least the claims uttere by gun controllers who rarely believe what they say) that

    1) people who have owned guns all their lives without ever using a gun illegally, need to have their rights further restricted to prevent them from doing what they never have done and,

    2) those who are not deterred in the least by the possibility of a death sentence or life without parole, for committing murder, will somehow be prevented from committing first degree felonies by the threat of a couple years in jail for violating a gun law
     
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    So you believe that half, at least, of all gun owners are potential murderers? Gees... you just convinced me that MOST anti-gunners are mentally ill.
     
  3. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    where could anyone with a rational thought process come up with that argument from what I wrote
     
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    Have all border agents been ordered to withdraw from the border? Do we have no agents patrolling the border anymore? When did this happen?
     
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    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you feel you need regulations and laws on vehicles and roads?

    Do you feel you need regulations and laws on food preparations in restaurants, cafes, takeaways etc..?

    Do you feel you regulations and laws on health and safety in the work place?

    Do you feel you need regulations and laws on product quality and safety?

    Do you feel you need regulations and laws on building design? Domestic buildings, commercial buildings and such structures as bridges and damns?

    So why not weapons?

    Arms back, head forward, tongue pushing bottom of mouth out and say, "Der, 2nd amendment"
     
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    Seems that isn't the case
     
  7. RoanokeIllinois

    RoanokeIllinois Banned Donor

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    sorry, but I'm straight. I don't support homos or trans.
     
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    RoanokeIllinois Banned Donor

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    Do you feel the need for a Socialist 3rd World America? lmao
     
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    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I just feel a certain gun group need to get their brains into gear and stop acting like children.
     
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    RoanokeIllinois Banned Donor

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    children hu?

    the democrat party is the one low on morality, and trying to destroy America's values.

    they're the whiney little baby party. lol

    they love talking about their "feelings", and let's not "offend" anybody.
    Because they're cowards, and gutless.

    That is why the Democrat Politicians are the laughing stock of the nations, when they get into power, and other countries push America around, when Democrat Politicians are in power.
     
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    We already have regulations on weapons... federal background checks to purchase them and federal Class III requirements for certain items... and depending on the state:
    - weapon registration
    - training requirements to get a permit
    - permits required for "carry"
    - background checks to buy ammunition
    - age requirements
    - waiting periods after purchasing a firearm to take possession of it
    The list goes on and on.
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    What moral values? As far as I can tell, it's the GOP guys who are trying to destroy or deny our values on both national and personal levels.
    On the national level, we have the Jan 6 insurrection, and on the personal level we have Matt Gaetz, Tom Reed, Van Taylor and Madison Cawthorne. If money is more your thing there's Duncan Hunter.

    Two years after the last Presidential election I'm still hearing whines from Magidiots that they won despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Who's whiny?

    Since when did good manners become evidence of cowardice? I was taught it was a sign of a good upbringing.

    I think you're mistaken. Tinyhands and Bush II were the ones that got us laughed at. Pretty much for their casual way of carelessness with the truth and blatant stupidity.
     
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    Jan 6th "insurrection"? LOLOL... if you think a disorganized, unarmed bunch of protesters occupying ONE BUILDING for a few hours is an "insurrection" then you must not know what an "insurrection" really is. It would take thousands of armed, well trained folks from coast to coast, taking over transportation centers, communications hubs, police facilities, military sites with a whole slew of folks ready to step in at every state to take over Governor slots, DOJ, FBI, DEA, and endless government agencies. If you think Jan 6 was an "insurrection" then you must think a single slice of black olive constitutes a "pizza".

    if you are looking for politicians to be your moral guides you are similarly mistaken. I want politicians to keep my family safe and prosperous. If I want moral guidance I'll call a priest. Eisenhower had his gal on the side, so did JFK. Bill Clinton had bunches.
    Biden's outright cowardice... running like a scalded dog from Afghanistan while arming the Taliban and abandoning US citizens and allies is one of the wort debacles in US history. Biden's cowardice is what emboldened Putin to invade Afghanistan. He never dared to do that with Trump in the White House.
    Focusing on one's "feelings" is not good manners... its weakness... especially when the safety of my family is at stake. Screw feelings. PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH!
     
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    Look up the definition of the word. There was a violent uprising against the government then. Pretty much fits the definition. I did not say it was well planned or likely to succeed, that is most likely the fault of its leadership, who were in no way stable geniuses.

    I was replying to a post that implied all the moral turpitude was on the Democrats' side of the aisle. Personally, I don't need a priest to intercede between me and God. I think my moral compass is better than that, But to each his own.

    Are you serious? Worse than Vietnam, overthrowing a democratically elected government in Iran, supporting Pinochet in Chile, all the way back through the Brits burning down the White House and the US invasion of Canada during the War of 1812? Really? We've done far worse for longer periods.

    Was Truman weak because the Arabs invaded Israel 15May48 because it happened on his watch? Trump would have stood by and watched as Russia invaded Ukraine; he had been trying to dismantle NATO throughout his Presidency.

    The only reason to do anything, even defend your family is because you want to do it. That is not weakness. It is the only rational motivation. 'Why I'm doing it' is as important as 'what I'm doing'.
    No one is threatening your family. It truly is good manners not to hurt anyone's feelings without need. It is most definitely NOT a sign of cowardice.Thrashing around hurting people unnecessarily is not strength, it is suicidally stupid.
     
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    If 30,000 armed right-wing extremists marched on DC for an insurrection, as the Democrats would have us believe, nothing could have stopped them.
    Pelosi, Schumner, AOC - maybe Pence - and scores of others would be dead.
    Eventually the ANG shows up. A fight ensues. Hundreds more die.
    That's what happens in an insurrection.
    Why did that not happen on Jan 6th?
    Hint: It wasn't an insurrection.
     
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    Again, look the definition up. words have meanings. This one was used correctly.
     
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    this is the best summary of the 1/6 hyperbole
     
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    You hold on to that, if it makes you feel better.
     
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    I think it's racist that a person has to have an id to get a gun.

    More gang members, and drug dealers, should be able to just walk on it, and purchase any guns that they want.

    I meant, they should be able to steal them.

    LOL. Just kidding, unfortunately the far left radicals would probably be ok with all of the above.
     
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    What? First of all, this whole statement is a straw man argument. No reputable person is saying anything like that.

    Second, as I understand the issue, it is the right that wants less regulation on firearms, not the left.
     
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    If it is racist to require people to have an ID to vote, it is equally racist to require people to have an ID to buy a gun.
     
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    the right is republicans. deommcrats are on the left, just to let you know.

    the right usually stands with gun type groups. They're also for gun safety, and gun training.

    The left/democrats want to take away everyones guns, or at least get rid of many types of guns. So on one end, we could have gun safety, and teach the public about gun safety, and on the other end, they simply just want to ban certain guns, and the thin is, felons/criminals are always find a way to have guns.

    especially when one party supports sanctuary cities, and drug lords, and junkies, and drugs in general, and is ok with gangbangers, and gangs, and gang shootings, and don't do anything about black on black crime.

    Anarchy fits into their socialist agenda, and to put fear into Americans

    and one of thee biggest ways to do this, is by taking weapons/ways for civilians/the American people to protect themselves, and then democrat politicians always standing up for felons, criminals, and people in prisons that commit hanneous acts of crimes, especially with weapons.
     
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    Just to let you know, some prominent Dems are moral.

    But gun rights first of all. Look, I have no problem with you owning a gun.I think it's foolish, but part of freedom is the right to be stupid.

    No one wants to take away the guns you already have. Cite me one reputable source that says this.
    By the same token, book banners don't confiscate the books you already own.

    Okay. But fewer guns in circulation means there are fewer guns to be found. Eventually there's a much lower supply of guns in criminal hands. For the record, I could make a rifle from a bit of pipe, a 2x6, a lighter and a drill. I know the formulae for both black and smokeless powder. But those guns are much slower than a modern automatic rifle

    Name one prominent Democrat that supports any of those outside sanctuary cities. Then tell me what you think a sanctuary city is.

    You're the one that's afraid.

    Sorry, I can't forgo the cheap shot: Republicans can't stand up for felons because they are the felons. Again, no one is taking your guns away.

    Democrat politicians tend to stand up for people who have no money to stand up for themselves. I don't care for a lot of their agenda, but I like that bit.
     
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    Destroy America !!!

    ~ We're on our way ! Democrats are doing a stellar job. Another 2 years and the American middle-class could be a thing of the past ...
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    That would be why the US GDP grew this year.
     

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