Dick's Sporting Goods loses firearms businesses after gun control push

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  1. Vegas giants

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    Yeah.....federal gun control is never going away
     
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    Obviously, firearms were not available at the dawn of man, and obviously, man was not living within a sophisticated society at his dawn. Life is not a John Wayne movie.
     
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    Where did Turtledude mention firearms?

    What do you define as a sophisticated society? How is that measured?

    If life were like a John Wayne movie, we’d have endless magazines, even for our SA Colt revolvers.

    Growing up, much of my perception of the US was formed by watching Hollywood movies and it was interesting after I got here seeing what was real and what was myth. I spent a year hitch hiking the US (including up to the AK), Canada, Mid and South America in the very early 70’s and remember being disappointed that the West didn’t conform to the perceptions I had. But, nothing here really did.

    Many of John Wayne’s movies embodied values like self sufficiency, honor, honesty, duty to people and country, leadership, etc. that were often associated with Americans as that of the American Character idealized by many.

    One of the more interesting movies John Wayne acted in was one of his last, the Shootist. It was an allegory of the end of the American Character that was idealized by many for over 200 years were the that the stuff Americans believed their heroes should possess. That idealization gave way both in movies and real life to the rise of the anti-Hero and the rebellion against American idealized values. Movies are a reflection of the times, carry and frame social meaning and an entire forum could be devoted to that discussion, particularly as it pertains to the gun rights/fire arms violence debate.

    As an aside, there are a lot of lines pertaining to gun fighting mindset in the movie the Shootist, that IMO, suggest someone with real life experience was advising. But, there was one typical John Wayne type of quote that embodied the old American values that I think still represents that which is worth aspiring to
    “I won’t be wronged. I won’t be insulted. I won’t be laid a-hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.”
    Before all the twisting of that quote to support a favorite narrative, recognize that statement for what is really is... it’s a variation of the Golden Rule.
     
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    Basic medication and healthcare did not exist at the dawn of man either.
     
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    Indeed it was. So, if gun control advocates are serious about restricting or changing the right to bear arms in hopes of it becoming a readily revocable privilege instead of a right, and to have it be Constitutionally legitimate, then they need to pursue the appropriate amendments to make it happen.
     
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    Mine gets used for competition, training, hunting, and home defense. It's one of my most heavily used firearms.
     
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    And a highly versatile and effective firearm is it - indeed, there's no legal purpose for a firearm the AR platform cannot be adapted to.
     
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    Or illegal.
     
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    No commercially available product on the open market is built with the intended purpose of it being utilized for illegal purposes.
     
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    Further, -every- legal product on the market can be used illegally.
     
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    Which is not being denied, but not presently relevant to the discussion at hand.
     
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    It deals directly with the post your responded to.
     
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    If I licked a postage stamp and pasted it on HRC's forehead would it be illegal? Would she like it? Would the SS shoot me anyway? Would it be enough to get them to ship her off to Antananarivo?

    I know all of those questions are fascinating for all of us, even though I can't think of any way to relate them to Dick's, dicks or gun control right now.
    But give me a few minutes. ;-)
     
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    Contradicting your earlier statement that they "can choose to decline any sale at his/her discretion"
     
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    I am sorry you cannot seem to understand what I am saying.
    To put this clearly before I put you on ignore which will be done as soon as I finish typing.

    1. A FFL may run into legal trouble if they refuse a sale solely on the basis of race or age.
    2. A FFL can refuse that same sale based on any number of other legal reasons made up or real.

    Hopefully you understand because I will not be seeing your name come up in this forum on my browser and therefore this discussion with me is closed.
    It has been a slice.
     
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    Are you sure?

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    Exactly what is that, and how is it relevant to the discussion?
     
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    What is it? It's a commercially available product on the open market that's built with the intended purpose of it being utilized for illegal purposes.
     
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    What is the product? What is its intended use? What is it illegally used for?
     
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    DIRECTLY contradicting your earlier statement that they "can choose to decline any sale at his/her discretion"
     
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    Why did you ignore this part that was posted immediately after (1) above?

    "2. A FFL can refuse that same sale based on any number of other legal reasons made up or real."

    As an outside observer, how would you tell the difference if a sale was based on (1) or (2)?
     
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    You cant tell. When a minority customer is involved it will simply be presumed that it was discrimination against that minority.
     
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    Clearly that is a very small sugar spoon. LOL
     
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